Why Vote? Five Reasons.

“Why should I vote?”

I’m sure you’ve been asked this question before. Perhaps you’ve asked it yourself. I receive this question many times for various reasons. Who says you should vote? Does it make a difference? What if you don’t like the choice of candidates; should you still vote?

As the General Election approaches, this question is even more relevant. From Scriptures to civics and family legacies, here are five reasons I believe we must vote.

1. Scripture reveals what government should look like

Is the Bible silent on government and elections? Far from it. Scripture tells us that God ordained civil government to be His servant for our good. (Romans 13:1-4) Conversely, when government does not serve its God-given purpose, the nation tends toward corruption. The influence of Israel’s kings on the people’s behavior is a prime example.

In Proverbs 14:34 we see that “righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people.”

How do we take part in making a nation righteous? We must be salt and light.

“You are the salt of the earth, but if salt has lost its taste, how shall its saltiness be restored? It is no longer good for anything except to be thrown out and trampled under people’s feet.” Matthew 5:13 (ESV)

One of the ways we can be salt to flavor and even preserve the world around us is to influence who manages our government by participating in the election process and voting. When we choose not to vote, we walk away from our chance to make a difference.

2. Scripture is clear that we need to be good stewards of all that God has given us – including our citizenship.

Unlike many Christians before us, we have the ability to direct the course of our nation through our vote. God has given us the privilege of living in the United States, and just as with any other good gift or talent from God, we are called to be good stewards. The blessing carries with it a responsibility.

In Matthew 25, the Master of the servant who has best used his talent says to him, “‘Well done, good and faithful servant. You have been faithful over a little; I will set you over much. Enter into the joy of your master.’” As Americans, our vote is one of our ‘talents;’ we must use it wisely.

3. Elected officials determine laws that affect us – whether we vote or not—and those laws affect our ability to live out our beliefs.

Almost every week, a new headline reminds me how the actions of an elected government official—or someone in government who was appointed by an elected official—affects our freedom to live according to our faith:

  • A school district policy requiring teachers to use students’ preferred pronouns
  • A district court ruling that requires a Christian cake artist to use her services to celebrate a same-sex wedding
  • A city council ordinance banning sidewalk counseling and prayer within a certain distance of abortion facilities.

We live with the choices that are made in elections, and the best time and place to stop bad policy is at the ballot box on Election Day.

Even if you don’t have a great choice between the candidates, (which is why primary elections are important), your vote can still slow the overall decline of our country. It takes patience and perseverance.

 “When the righteous increase, the people rejoice, but when the wicked rule, the people groan.” Proverbs 29:2

4. Every Vote Matters

You may be convinced about your responsibility to vote, but may still wonder, “does my vote really matter?”

In recent years, more elections than ever are being decided by the slimmest of margins.

iVoterGuide has devoted an entire article on the subject, but one only needs to look at the U.S. Senate Republican primary in Pennsylvania this year, where the winning candidate was decided by less than 1,000 votes. Or consider a U.S. House race in Iowa in 2020, where the margin of victory was a mere six votes! Those six people who voted were the deciding factor between having a Representative whom iVoterGuide rated “Conservative” versus one whom we rated “Verified Liberal.”

Such slim margins are even more common in local races. Don’t leave your future and your children’s future to chance. Your vote matters.

5. We impact future generations.

Our children and our children’s children are impacted by how we vote and by the actions taken by officials we elect—or by judges appointed by elected officials.

The impact of our votes on the judiciary alone is sobering when we look at Roe v. Wade and its reversal after nearly half a century of unconstitutional rule . . . and millions of lives lost. Voters were partially responsible for both decisions made by justices who were appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate.

We must also remember that we impact our children not just with our vote, but with our example. Are we setting an example of someone who is a conformer to culture, or changer of culture?

Are we leaving a legacy, as our forefathers did for us, as people who would devote our “lives, fortunes, and sacred honor” for liberty—not just ours, but our children’s?

“Duty is Ours, Results are God’s” – John Quincy Adams

Whatever your reason for voting—and as you can see, there are many—it all comes down to duty. Our nation was born from stout-hearted patriots who knew their duty and did it, even when the odds were against them.   So even if you have concerns about the integrity of the election process, you still have a civic responsibility to vote. 

As you preserve this country by being a good steward of your vote, iVoterGuide is here to give you information on the candidates so that you can choose wisely and elect those who most closely share your values.

By arming ourselves with facts and testing those facts against prayerful reflection and biblical values, we can be assured that we have made informed choices and carried out our duty regardless of the outcome.

Please use this email to educate others about why they should vote—and remind them to use iVoterGuide before they go to the polls.

Note: The article above was shared by Debbi Wuthnow with iVoterguide.

The COVID Vaccine- Resources to Read, Listen to, and Print

PDF of ***Updated (Jan. 2022) Covid 19 Treatment and Protocols, Including Vaccine Injury Protocols and Suggested Lab Testing by Dr. Gordon Donaldson as heard on Stand in the Gap Today 11/13/21.

Read and Print the PDF HERE.

COVID Vaccinations Part 1: The Medical Truth about CV Vaccines: Helpful Healer or Camouflaged Killer? An interview with Dr. Delores Cahill

Read and download the Transcript HERE.
PROGRAM: Listen to the program HERE.

COVID Vaccinations Part 2: The CV Vaccines: Unapproved, Experimental, and Potentially Fatal. An interview with Dr. Sherri Tenpenny.

Read and download the Transcripts HERE.
PROGRAM: Listen to the program HERE.

COVID Vaccinations Part III: Should I Take the SARS CoV-2 Vaccine? From the Words of the Manufacturers Themselves. An analysis of the Pfizer vaccine “Fact Sheet”. Click HERE for the printable PDF.

Other Resources (Click on the title to listen to the podcast):

1/31/21- Stand in the Gap Today with guest, Twila Brase. Title: The COVID-19 ‘Narrative’

1/21/21 – Stand in the Gap Today with guest, Dr. Sherri Tenpenny. Title: The COVID-Vaccines: Unapproved, Experimental and Potentially Fatal (Part 2 of 2 interviews with Dr. Tenpenny).

2/4/21 – Stand in the Gap Today with guest, Leo Hohmann.  Title: A Free Country? Beware the Double Masking Double Crossers

2/5/21 – Stand in the Gap Today with guest, Mat Staver. Title: COVID-19 and the Law

3/12/21 – Stand in the Gap Today with guest, Twila Brase. Title: Official COVID Guidance and Policies: Setting the Record Straight.

4/8/21 – Stand in the Gap Today with guests Rabbi E. David Smith and David New: Title: COVID Passports: Necessary or Abhorrent.

4/9/21- Stand in the Gap Today with guest, Leo Hohmann. Title: Emerging COVID Passports: Highway to Heaven or Gateway to Hell.

5/19/21 – Stand in the Gap Today with guest, Sam Faddis. Title: Connecting the COVID Bioweapon Dots

5/28/21 – Stand in the Gap Today with guest, Jamie Mitchell Title: Would Jesus Take the Vaccine?

6/10/21 – Stand in the Gap Today with guest, Dr. Marilyn Singleton Title: The Forever COVID Specter

6/11/21 – Stand in the Gap Today with guest, Leo Hohmann Title: Is COVID the New Global Religion?

To listen to more programs on Covid-19, the ‘Vaccine’, Mandates, etc. click HERE to access the Stand in the Gap Today archives.

Use key words to search programs like: Dr. Donaldson, Twila Brase, Dr. Marilyn Singleton, Dr. Delores Cahill, Dr. Sherri Tenpenny

Photo by Markus Winkler on Unsplash

Sam Rohrer Interviews with Perry Atkinson on the DOVE TV

September 6, 2022

Sam Rohrer, President of American Pastors Network, discusses Pennsylvania politics, the current state and how Christians should act in times like these.

To watch the interview, please click HERE.

“When God’s Justice Awakens”: A Wake-Up Call to America

By Hon. Sam Rohrer

To print this transcript from a PDF file, please click HERE.


Tomorrow, we celebrate the 246th birthday of the United States of America. The longest continuing constitutional Republic in the history of the world. And blessed of God, beyond description, this nation, our nation rose from nothing to become perhaps the greatest nation in terms of wealth and knowledge and compassion and creativity and work ethic and all of history. Like no nation before, the United States rose to prominence among the other nations of the world becoming the thought leader of the world, of the free world, the defender of the helpless. The communicator of truth and the proclaimer of the gospel to all people groups. Though hated by tyrants and despisers of God, this nation became a beacon of hope to the beleaguered. A light on the hill to the oppressed and a holy experiment in freedom to all of those in bondage everywhere.

               So, God used this nation to bring hope to an enslaved world and to evangelize a world illuminated by that light, which became this shining city on a hill and to bring prosperity to a world just like prophesied in Jeremiah 51:7 where God says there, “Thou, oh Babylon, hath been a golden cup in the Lord’s hands.” Today we sit here still enjoying many of God’s past blessings, and of that, we certainly can be thankful. Now that’s the good news. America became the fulfillment of exactly that for which our earliest founders hoped and prayed. But today America hangs on the precipice of total destruction and collapse and losing, as we speak, all that God has bestowed upon us.

               For over two generations, our nation has called evil good and good evil. For 60 years, last week, God has put up with America’s defiance of its generous invitation and command to pray when our nation’s highest court made it illegal to pray by our children in our government schools. For 49 years, I believe God has watched and wept over America, once one nation under God. Now the worldwide cheerleader and the enabler of the murder of the innocent. And since that door was first opened in 1973, the sanctioning of the slaughter of innocent children, over 65 million babies have been ripped from the wombs of their mothers and torn apart as this nation stands as condemned as Israel of old who sacrificed their babies on the altars of Molech and Baal.

               Now, with the court ruling of last week of Roe v. Wade, this is certainly a good thing for which we should all be thankful. Yet the decision does not make the murder of the unborn illegal. It just moves the debate back to the states where it should have been all along, yet the verdict is still out. What will God’s people and the Church in America now do? With less than 9% of the pulpits of America for the last 10 or 15 years even preaching one sermon per year on life and the sin of abortion because they feared someone in the pew, what do you think’s going to happen now in the pulpits of America when there are actually people out there threatening to harm those churches and the people who stand up?

               For 42 years, God has endured the arrogance of our nation when it raised its fist in the face of God Himself when our U.S. Supreme Court ordered the removal, from the walls of our government schools, the 10 Commandments of God. God’s moral universal law. Do you know what the Court said when they ordered the removal of the 10 Commandments? Effectively these words, “If the 10 Commandments are hanging on the walls of our schools, it’s possible that our children may read them. If they read them, it’s possible, they may venerate them or do them.” The court said, “This we cannot permit.” But America still didn’t learn. Still spiraling downward. From a national perspective, America has become the 21st century Sodom and Gomorrah.

               For 7 years now, last week, our nation’s highest court in grand arrogance to God Himself, but reflecting the leaders of government, generally, and the people themselves, defied the God of Heaven, the Creator of all mankind. Not to be out done by the evil of murdering our babies, our top determiners of law declared that the God who made male and female and established marriage and children to reflect the pattern of human civilization was again wrong. On June 26th, 2015, the court embraced as righteous the demonic structure of marriage as being between two men or two women and embracing as normal what God declares to be an abomination!

               Romans 1 makes it very clear. Not content to revel in sin themselves, they seek to compel all people, not only to embrace, but to participate in this evil. God has watched, God has wept, and God began to judge just as He said. And not to be forgotten, yet wildly overlooked was a decision by this very same Supreme Court who 10 days ago, thankfully, reversed the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision. Two years ago, June 15th, 2020, this Court ruled in a six to three margin in favor of protecting and establishing the abomination of transgenderism as an acceptable definition of human sexuality. So, this morning, it is remarkable our nation rose to greatness.

               It’s also equally remarkable of our fall into moral collapse and judgment as we witness this very day. It’s on that theme that I’d like to focus this morning’s sermon, which God has laid on my heart. Not from my subjective opinions, because I don’t mean a whole lot, but from God’s unchanging word which means everything.

               Rather than focusing on the what of Independence Day weekend and citing reminiscent platitudes and rehearsing selected pleasant, patriotic thoughts, which I would prefer to do, I want to present and consider from God’s perspective 4 questions that focus on the Why? Why did America rise from nothing and become the greatest nation perhaps in all of human history? Why did America maintain such longevity of greatness? Why is America collapsing and in moral free fall? Why are Americans so lethargic and blind to the actual condition of being under God’s judgment? I believe the answer to these questions lie in answering these questions from the perspective of when God’s Justice Awakens. A wake-up call to America as we consider His speaking to our nation and the backdrop of the familiar words of independence and liberty and freedom and greatness.

               Can we pray just briefly? Our Heavenly Father, we’re thankful that we can be here in a country raised up of You, blessed beyond measure and be here today gathered together with fellow believers in Your house. I pray, Lord, You’d guide us as we look back to what You have done, what You are doing, and Lord, what we should do. We pray in Jesus’ name, amen.

Well, before I identify the foundations established by our founders years ago, let me read to you a few verses that they identified as a part of their motivation for their choices, which should compel us to action in our lives today. From the book of Deuteronomy Chapter 30, you’ll see on the screen, it says, “See, I have set before thee this day life and death, good and evil. I call heaven and earth to record this day against you that I have set before you, life and death, blessing and cursing. Therefore, choose life that both thou and thy seed may live. That thou mayest love the Lord thy God and mayest obey His voice and thou mayest cleave unto Him for He is thy life and the length of thy days.”

               You see, there are only two paths that God says exist, life and death. God’s desire is for all people and nations to choose life, which is blessing – both temporal and eternal, both physical and spiritual. Deuteronomy Chapter 28:1-2 says, “And it shall come to pass. If thou shalt hearken diligently unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments which I command you this day, that the LORD thy God will set thee high above all nations of the earth. And all these blessings shall come on thee and overtake thee, if thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God.” Again, God makes it clear, there are only two choices in life, but only one choice that guarantees God’s blessings and liberty and freedom and prosperity. And that is fearing Him and keeping His commandments.

               In Deuteronomy Chapter 28, same chapter, part way through God changes it and He says, “And thou shalt not go aside from any of the words which I command you this day. To the right hand or to the left, to go after other gods to serve them. But it shall come to pass, if thou will not hearken unto the voice of the Lord thy God to observe to do all His commandments, and statutes which I command you this day, that all these curses shall come upon you and literally overtake you.” See God makes it clear again, all other choices guarantee cursing and bondage and poverty. Then the Apostle Paul in the New Testament, 1 Corinthians 3:11, says, “For other foundation can no man lay than that which is laid, Jesus Christ.

               You see, the Bible is unmistakably clear. There is no other foundation which can be laid, which leads to life except through fearing God and keeping His commandments, which then leads directly to the gospel in Jesus Christ. The foundation, of course, is the manifest essence of choosing life. The entire purpose of God’s Plan of Redemption being fulfilled in Jesus Christ the Way the Truth and the Life.

Why did America rise from nothing to greatness? Because the early founders established the foundations for national and personal blessing. The Pilgrims… we referred to Pilgrim’s feet in the song earlier… the Pilgrims contributed 3 primary foundations.

The first was the foundation of Right Personal Priorities. You see, the Pilgrims, unlike the early Jamestown, Virginia landing party, did not come to America as a business venture looking for gold. The Pilgrims came expressly for evangelization of this new world and to train up their children in the fear of God. Believe it or not, since they knew and felt that in Holland at their time, they were losing their children to a decadent culture. Amazing. The Pilgrims came not for gold, but for God.

The second Pilgrim foundation was that of National Purpose, which they officially stated in what is the first of our three organic documents of law. The Mayflower Compact, the first lines of that say, “In the name of God, amen.” Having undertaken for the glory of God and the advancement of the Christian faith.” Pretty amazing, huh?

The third foundation was that of a Heavenly Cultural Mission. John Robinson, the first Pilgrim leader, said this, “I perceived that God was calling us to a new Jerusalem to build His temple anew.” See they came not to build first their own home, but a dwelling place, a nation where God could freely be worshiped, and God could fully bless.

               Then a few short 10 years later, the Puritans arrived, and through the very great fear of God and knowledge of Scripture contributed 4 additional foundations building on that which the Pilgrims laid down. The Puritans, particularly, understood the biblical nexus between obedience to God and God’s blessings, and disobedience to God and God’s judgment.

Their first significant foundation was what I call, Generational Perspective. They made their testimony known before the world, and with it, established a working vision and purpose that looked ahead to the future. John Winthrop, first governor of the Colony of Massachusetts, said this, “That God would make us a praise and a glory so much so that men would say of succeeding efforts that the Lord make it like that of New England.” In short Winthrop said, “We must consider that we shall be as a shining city on a hill with the eyes of all the people- of the whole world- is upon us.” They knew that their mission was divine.

The second Puritan foundation was that of an Attitude of Gratitude. They instituted the principle of gratitude to God building off of the Pilgrim’s practice of Thanksgiving because they knew that being grateful is not only commanded by God, but it is also the practical antidote to pride and idolatry-which are the very seeds of rebellion guaranteeing the judgment of God. While every foundation that was laid for later building of the house of civil government and God’s blessing, there is a particular significance to this principle of gratitude. Can I share?

               When God took Israel into the land, in the beginning part of Deuteronomy, He said, I’m going to bless you mightily and give you all the things, houses, and all that kind of things. But He said then, “I warn you though, don’t get to the point where I bless you and then you think that you did it by your own hands.” Because at which point that happens, it will all change. Proverbs 6:17 says, “These six things that the Lord hates.” Yeah, seven are an abomination.” What’s the first one on the list? Pride, pride and a haughty look. It was pride that took a hold of Satan and caused him to lift himself up against God. It is pride that God said He hates particularly, particularly in regard to civil leaders. It’s because of pride that God says He will take down all of those who are proud and haughty. Nebuchadnezzar recognized that. God says that it is pride, which is the root which leads to idolatry, which is the breaking of the very first command of God given to all people. It is a sin that will bring judgment against nations more certainly than anything. It is pride, which I believe, is at the root of America’s greatest sin.

The third foundation contributed by the Puritans is that of Christian Education in two distinct areas. They knew God’s primary command for parents was to raise up their children in the fear of God. Deuteronomy 6 says this, “Hear, O Israel, the LORD our God is one LORD. And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul and with all thy might. And these words, which I command you this day, shall be in thine heart. And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children and talk of them.” It goes on to the verse- when you get up in the morning, when you sit down and all through the day. In other words, 24 hours a day Christianity, belief in God. If there’s one greatest need we have in America and the American church today is for fathers to take their primary responsibility for teaching their children, and together with the mother, to raise up children in the fear and the admonition of the Lord.

               But a second part of the Puritan commitment to Christian education was Secondary Education…but for the purpose of instructing men how to preach the gospel and to connect biblical principles to life and living. From this came the establishment of Harvard University in 1636. The first university in America and it was expressly established to teach men how to boldly preach the Word. Can you believe that? Reason, so that the world would know that the purpose for Christian education. The Puritans wrote the Rules and Precepts of Education and posted them on the wall of Harvard that is still hanging there, unless they took it down last week. Says this, “Let every student be plainly instructed and earnestly pressed to consider well that the main end of his life in studies is to know God and Jesus Christ who is eternal life. John 17:3, Therefore, to lay Christ in the bottom as the only foundation of all sound knowledge and learning.” Incredible?

A very important fourth foundation laid down by the Puritans was the concept of Memorials for they knew that this would help facilitate the foundation of a generational perspective, an attitude of gratitude and a Christian education. They took this from the illustration and command found in Joshua 4. It’s that passage, if you recall, Israel had wandered in the land for forty years and were about to cross into the promised land. The Jordan River was at high tide, they couldn’t get across. God said, Priests, step into the water, and it opened up. He commanded them to take out 12 stones and put them on the bank. One for each tribe and he called it a Memorial, Put it there for a Memorial to the next generations. Verse 21 of chapter four says this, “When your children will ask your fathers in time to come saying what means these stones? Then you shall let your children know saying Israel came over this Jordan on dry land.”

               Then for these two purposes, why? “That all the people of the earth might know the hand of the Lord,” kind of like Winthrop’s city on a hill. “That it is mighty and that you might fear the Lord your God forever”. Memorials are to remind us of what God has done, and so we can tell our children, so they don’t forget what God has done. Isn’t it interesting a couple years ago, how many people wanted to tear down all kinds of memorials? There’s a lot to that.

Well then, along came William Penn, the founder of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. William Penn contributed one extraordinary foundation where he connected the principles of Scripture and personal holiness, and he linked those blessings to the fear of God and obedience to the Lord as the framework for civil government.

               He combined the principles of biblical authority and liberty into what Penn called his Frame of Government 1682, which earned him the right, in part, the designation by Benjamin Franklin or Thomas Jefferson as the Father of the Founders. Through his exhaustive and brilliant study of Scripture and history and borne out by his own personal testimony of being cast out by his family when he came to faith in Christ, Penn laid down the foundation for civil freedom in the knowledge that liberty is being set free from the bondage of sin. Many cynics and atheists of our day love to state how our nation was not founded by Christians or Christian thought. It is wrong to claim such thing. Well, let me read to you, you’ll find this amazing, I believe, just a portion of a brilliant defense of the gospel in regard to the right to religious freedom…so important to Penn. You decide if the early founders understood the essence of biblical faith.

               He said this, “in Christ’s own words, they do plainly teach,” he says, “the son of man has come to save that which was lost.” Upon another occasion, he expressed himself to the same purpose in almost the same words, “For the son of man has come to seek and to save those who were lost.” Well, who is this that is lost but man? In what sense can man be said to be lost except by sin and disobedience? It was the sin and disobedience that cast him out of the presence of the garden of God and put him in a condition of eternal misery. If Christ then came to save lost man, he must be understood to save him from that which puts him in a lost condition, and that is sin, for the wages of sin is death.

               The servant of sin is a son of perdition. We must faithfully tell people that he that commits sin is the servant of sin from which servitude Christ came to save His people, and that is why He’s called the Savior and the Redeemer. Nothing can be more apparent than that freedom from actual sinning and giving newness of life to the souls of men was the great reason for Christ coming. For which he has given us his fullness of grace and truth, grace for grace. And to be under grace and not under the law is not to have the liberty to do which we ought not to have done before or be excused from former obligations. But to be freed from the condemnation of the law, first, through the remission of sins that are past based on faith and repentance.

               And next freeing us from that weakness by which we were disabled from keeping God’s law, and in fulfilling the righteousness of it by receiving and obeying the light and the grace that comes through Jesus Christ.”

Wow! Now, this type of deep understanding was not unique.  It is what led the later signers of the Declaration of Independence some years later, and the leaders of our War for Independence to further lay down the foundation for civil freedom in the knowledge that liberty is being set free from the bondage of sin. This knowledge then leads to the understanding, and this is critical, civil freedom can only be birthed and maintained by people who have first experienced spiritual liberty and freedom in Christ.

Again, let me ask the question, why did America rise from nothing to perhaps become the greatest nation in history? Because our founders feared God and they laid down the essential foundations that God could bless. Oh, that we would  remember that …yesterday.

The second greatest question of importance is why did America maintain its longevity of greatness when most nations of the world dissolved or fell into dictatorship early on?

Well, a first fundamental reason was a consequence of the Puritan foundation of Christian education and the commitment to teach men how to boldly preach the whole council of God. You may remember this story, American revolution, parallel, French revolution. American revolution succeeded, French revolution failed.

               French historian, Alex Tocqueville, came to America to figure out why it was that America succeeded and France failed? He said, he came to America, he said, “I went into the academic institutions of America to see is the secret there? Well, he said, -I didn’t find it there. I traveled America, I traversed, I saw their fertile stream. I mean, their streams in fertile fields.” I thought, “Is it there?” He says, “No, it’s not there.” I went into industry of America, it wasn’t there. I went into the halls of government, and I looked, and I said, “It’s not there.” And Tocqueville said this, “It’s not until I went into the churches of America and heard the pulpit’s flame with the preaching of righteousness that I understand the secret to the success of America.” He said this, “America is great because America is good. Good equals righteous. If America ever ceases to be good, righteous, America will cease to be great.” How biblical? How prophetical?

A second reason is that God had a Plan for America. Do you know that God has a Plan of Redemption that was telegraphed right in the first part of Genesis? And it works throughout all of history and God works through nations. Job 12:23 says, “God increases the nations and he destroys them. He enlargeth the nations and he straighteneth them out again.” Acts 17 is all about God working through nations. God works through nations. But we also know, according to Daniel, Daniel 2, that, “God changes with the times and the seasons and he removeth Kings and he sets them up so no one gets in a position of power unless God, through his sovereign action, allows them to be there.” So, God had a plan for America. No people, no nation should ever think that anything is all about them. It’s all about God, and God’s Plan of Redemption. That’s why history is His story, not ours.

Now the third reason is that God honored the early commitment to fear God and keep his commandments. I read a couple of the verses from Deuteronomy 28: 1-2, Fear me and keep my commandments and I’m going to pour out so many blessings you won’t be able to handle them. So, God was a God of promise.

Fourth unique reason for the longevity of America’s greatness is that God sent periodic revivals and spiritual awakenings.

               First great awakening, Jonathan Edwards, in the “Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God”, we know that sermon changed America. 1720 to 1745, immediately preceding the Declaration of Independence. Second grade awakening, Charles Finney preceded The Civil War. Third grade awakening, Dwight L. Moody just followed The Civil War. Billy Sunday opened up the 20th Century. One thing that pride does is that pride blinds us to the reality that man does not create greatness, man does not schedule great awakenings, and man does not plan revivals. God does. Although, man does, through the fear of God and his obedience to God, prepare the ground for revival.

               Now, fifth reason is that throughout our history, leaders Recognized the Role of God and their Role before God. A couple of quotes here, just look at these quickly. Thomas Jefferson early on said, “I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just. That His justice cannot sleep forever.” Abraham Lincoln said, “Sir, my concern is not whether God is on our side, my greatest concern is if we are on God’s side for God is always right.”

               Here’s one of the most interesting, Abraham Lincoln in the Gettysburg address quoted these words which came from the Bible of William Tyndale, and it was Tyndale’s translation of the Bible into readable English that set the pathway that led into the preparation for the Pilgrims and the Puritans to come to our country. In the flyleaf of Tyndale’s Bible is where Lincoln took this. Tyndale said this, “This Bible is translated and will make possible a government of the people, by the people, and for the people.” Interesting.

In light of all this amazing history, why is America collapsing in a moral free fall? Well, there are multiple reasons.

A prime and fundamental one I believe is that we’ve just simply forsaken God and we have no fear of God before our eyes.

This is evidenced in part by these things, our actions, collectively, our actions which indicate that we are proud and we feel we don’t have any need for God. Our priorities are self-centered and unbiblical in most part. Generally speaking, it’s definitely true. Our public policies and judicial congressional laws, executive mandates are almost exclusively evil from spending and spending and debt and debt to redefining what God has said to be good to be evil. Our pulpits are silent. You know less than 9% of the pulpits of America, I mentioned earlier, have even preached one sermon on a moral issue in the last 20 years. Most professing Christians are chameleon Christians, and the church is very lethargic.

               No real difference between those who say they are Christians and those who don’t. Our families are broken and dysfunctional. Our national worldview is anti-God. You know there are less than 5% of Americans manifest a biblical worldview? Do you know that there’s a dominant religion in America? … and it’s not Christianity. The dominant religion in America, according to George Barna’s recent survey, is what he calls Syncretism. By 94%, you may call it modern narcissism. It’s a little bit of Christianity, a little bit of Buddhism, a little bit of mysticism, a little bit of atheism all put together and we make this our new religion, and the key is as long as you feel good about it. It’s not God’s Word.

Now another reason we’re in moral free fall and economic collapse is that we’ve Destroyed the Foundations of truth. Psalm 11:3 said, “If the foundations be destroyed, what shall the righteous do?” Foundations of what? Foundations of truth. Foundations of authority I believe is what that verse is talking about. Well, when you declare prayer illegal, tear off the 10 Commandments, murder 65 million babies, and less than 30% of the evangelical pastors in the nation believe that the Bible is authoritative. You don’t think that refers to and meets the definition of destroyed foundations? You throw out truth, it will lead to a Rejection of God, which then leads to a Redefining of truth, which then leads to Perverting of Justice, which then leads to Praising the Lawless, which then leads to the Persecution of the Righteous, which then leads to People mourning because the righteous are not in authority. Then that leads to exactly what God says will happen to any nation when a people reject him, and His judgment begins.

There’s another reason, we’ve also committed the sins and evil which God says guaranteed will bring judgment, cursing, collapse. Just very quickly, Ezekiel 20, read Ezekiel 20 and 21 and 22. Ezekiel’s kind of like a prosecutor for God, and he’s laying out the sins of Israel. He just said this, –As Israel did when embracing idolatry and taking innocent blood and literally breaking all the 10 Commandments,– is what he records in Ezekiel 20. Literally every one of them are broken there. I submit, so have we as America.

               Ezekiel 22 goes further,–Israel at all governmental levels and the people themselves for their own greed distorted justice, embraced bribery, and corruption. They threw out truth to the wind and they proclaimed good to be bad and evil to be good– So have we.

We’ve also rejected the repeated warnings of God and ascribed them to human natural causes. Think about this, how many fires and floods and droughts do we have to have across this country increasingly that devastate our land and just say, Well, I guess that’s a result of global warming. COVID comes, manmade bioweapon, yes, it was. It comes, it came and look what happened. But God used that, it knocked down our idols of sports and entertainment and selfish pursuits and prosperity and mobility and security.

               And we dismiss it as perhaps a product of the Left, a coincidence? In the end, we just don’t understand the justice of God and His holiness and His hatred for sin and the need for judgment. Take time, go back and read Deuteronomy 28 because you will find all the listings of blessings that God said would come and you will find almost double the amount of judgment that will come on Israel and God did it. You look and see if they don’t every one of them line up with America today. It is incredible.

Brings us to the last question. Why are Americans so lethargic and blind to the actual condition of being under God’s judgment? How can we just continue to go on?

I think in large part because the church is Laodicean. I can’t help but comparing the church of today to the church of the Laodiceans. Revelation chapter 3, Jesus describes them being rich, increased with physical stuff and they thought they had no need of anything. They were just ‘all right’, but Jesus said they were really wretched and miserable and poor, and poverty stricken, and they were blind and naked. He said, –Take some of your money and buy some eye salve so you can see your real condition!– I think we have a lethargic church. I think, by and large, our people are idolatrous. I know they are idolatrous. God through Ezekiel says the same thing, “You have become guilty by the blood that you have shed, and you’ve been defiled by the idols that you have made, and you have brought your days near. The appointed time of your years has come.” See, the mercy of God is long, but the justice of God will step in.

               The people in the entire nation ignore the voice of God. How can I say that? Well, just as Israel began to experience the severe hand of God’s judgment, that’s what the Old Testament’s is all about. We can find it, our application to us today. They would not turn to God. So, has God not been speaking to us? And have we returned to God? Even when the prophets of old were traversing the land of Israel and declaring the warnings of God, the people rejected them. Isaiah 9:13 says, “The people did not turn to him, God, who judged them, nor did they even think of inquiring of the Lord of hosts.” Our problem is that we don’t recognize when God is speaking. Worse, I think we got a real problem in that we don’t even think God has a right to speak.

               In spite of 9/11, COVID, generally, pestilences of all various types, destructive weather, collapsing economy and dollar, wars and rumors of war that’s traversing the world, the rise of the globalist anti-Christ government, still even then, government leaders, they don’t recognize God and remain arrogant, proud, compromised, given to bribery and corruption, fearful and covetous. The church closes down.  Many people have still felt it comfortable to stay at home. Even many God-fearing people think that some politician can make America great again, and refuse to acknowledge that America can never become great again until God, once again, becomes great in America!

Now, as a result, we just simply don’t see a need to humble ourselves as 2 Chronicles 7:14 says, “If my people who are called by my name shall humble themselves and pray and seek my face, then I will hear from heaven. I will forgive their sin. I will heal their land.” But since we don’t even recognize how God speaks and God speaks through weather, God speaks through all of those things…. read Deuteronomy…. how will we ever hear or understand what He’s saying? For some reason, I think because we’re dominated by pride and a false sense of self-produced greatness, we think that God’s conditions for blessings and judgment don’t apply to us. We think that in America all we’ve ever known is blessing, and it just couldn’t be any other way. But this is not the default position in life.

               Like Babylon the Great referred to in Revelation 18:7, God said that when He’ll pronounce judgment on this nation… this has not yet happened, prophetically. He says, “How much she hath glorified herself and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she sayeth in her heart, I sit as a queen. I’m not a widow, I see no sorrow.” And God says, “Therefore, shall her plagues come in a day, death and mourning and famine and she shall be utterly burned with fire for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.” Does this not sound like America?

Finally, this most serious question, perhaps we don’t recognize the voice of God and are content to ignore the word of God, and therefore, see no need to humble ourselves in the sight of God or seek the face of God. Maybe it’s because we’re not possibly the people of God, and you say, “What are you talking about?”

               Because I remember that verse that says, “If my people who are called by my name.” Think of this… George Barna, whom I do a lot of work with, just did a recent survey early this year. 74% of all Americans self-identify as Christians. 74%, you’d say, “Wow, that’s fantastic.” It would be if it’d be true, but we know it’s not true. It’s not possible. Otherwise, we wouldn’t be in the condition that we’re in, right?

               But going down through, 30%, identify as being born again Christians. I say, “Oh, 30%, big number. That’s fantastic.” Now 28% self-identify as being evangelical. Interesting. But here’s the bottom line, when you work it all down through only 6% to 7% actually manifest that what they say is what they believe. Well over half of all of them don’t believe that the Bible is true. Well over half of all of those, including the born againers and the evangelicals who say they are, don’t believe that the Holy Spirit or the Devil are real.

So, it reminds me very much of this, America looks very much like Israel of the Old Testament, Laodicea of the New Testament. And very much like the people that Jesus warned about in Matthew 7:13-23. This is where Jesus says this, you remember the disciples… He was talking to them and He said, “There are two ways.” Just like I talked about with the founders. There are two ways. There’s a narrow way… a narrow gate. There’s a broad way…a broad gate. Many on this big path, the crowd is over here. Few on this path, it’s narrow. Then Jesus says this, —In that day, when judgment comes, many people— I don’t know what He means by ‘many’, but ‘many is not a few’. Many people will stand before Me and will say, “But God, Jesus, didn’t we do all of these great things in Your name?” Obviously, ‘in Your name’, they’ve got to be saying we are God fearers, Christians. We did it in Your name. We even cast out devils. We did a whole host of good things, and Jesus said…

               …And, this is perhaps, I think– to me, perhaps the scariest, most solemn verse in the whole Bible where Jesus looks at them and says it makes no difference, “Depart from me you workers of iniquity. I never knew you.” Wow! When I look around at America and I say, how so little respond to hearing the words of God. Responding in fear to the word of God. I’m convinced that Jesus was talking about our time, and George Barna was talking, and his research is proving, the time. We have a lot of professors, but very few possessors. Not My People.

Now that we can– from God’s Word and from history– know that God blessed this nation, He’s clearly now judging America, and we know that what God is saying, the logical question is How will you respond to this? How will I?

               This morning, there are people here watching TV, listening to radio– I think–in one of two groups. You’re either a child of God by faith in Jesus Christ or still a child of the Devil dead in sins. You’re either on the narrow way leading to Life or you’re on the broad way leading to death. You’ve either been redeemed by the Blood of Jesus Christ, the Spotless Lamb of God, or you are still a rejector, unredeemed, rebellious in an innate sin nature, born with it. But one day we’re all going to stand before Him in one of those two categories. To you who know you have not placed your faith in Jesus Christ, what a great weekend, Independence Day weekend, to experience spiritual liberty. Which only comes from being set free in Jesus Christ.

               For you, who self-identify as Christians but have little evidence in your life of fearing God…. you’re a Sunday Christian only.  A lot of people come to church only a couple times a week or a year, or for them, Christian life is what they think on Sunday but forget the rest of the week. This dreadful thought, standing one day before the Lord and say, “Lord, I went to church once in a while. I did a lot of good things. I gave money. I did this, I did that.” And Jesus said, “Depart from me, I never knew you.”

               I believe as we look around the world today, all of the signs, the prophetical signs of Christ’s return are literally on the table right now and they are moving. They are converging like never, ever before, which tells me that the time of great wrath, tribulation period, the rapture of the church to come first, is at the door. That means we’d better say, “Lord, what’s my relationship to You like? Is it real? Do I have one? Am I living like it? Shall we bow our heads, please?

American Pastors Network President Sam Rohrer Statement on SCOTUS ruling in Coach Kennedy Case


-News Release

Throughout history, Americans have affirmed faith in God inside private and very public spaces. From the opening of legislative sessions and the inaugurations of every president and governor, to proclamations requesting silent prayer during war and natural disasters, expressions of faith recognize the limits of human strength.  

Today’s decision affirming the right of a high school football coach, Joseph Kennedy, to invite players to participate in voluntary prayer was not an endorsement of specific expressions of faith but an affirmation of the right to believe and the freedom to express those beliefs without fear or penalty.  

We call on America’s pastors to help congregations rediscover the importance of true prayer and dependence on God. This moment offers a signal to deepen, or even begin, a personal relationship with the Creator and gives every pastor and church leader a reason for new earnestness in prayer.  

Overall, we urge Christians nationwide to pray for all those in authority to allow believers to live “quiet and peaceable” lives while we work for the peace of our communities and nation. 

Today’s historic Supreme Court decision signals to every American the right to acknowledge the God-given, constitutionally guaranteed right to acknowledge God in every area of their life and work.  

The American Pastors Network is the first and largest national network of Bible-believing pastors committed to teaching and applying biblical principles as the moral compass and source of truth for all matters of life. APN encourages civic responsibility and impacts the culture for Christ.

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A Call to Prayer…Repentance…Revival

VCY America Interviews Sam Rohrer

Date: May 5, 2022
Host: Jim Schneider
​Guest: Sam Rohrer

Show Notes:

As Jim noted as he opened the show, we are living in perilous times.  These are times that the Apostle Paul warned young pastor Timothy about.  He talked about how men will be lovers of themselves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy and more, all of which you can read about in 1 Timothy   It all reads like a commentary on 2022. 

God’s hand of blessing on America certainly appears to be slipping away.  Will it ever return?  Is there a way back to what we once were?  Where is the solution?

Joining Jim to explore this issue was Sam Rohrer.  Sam is president of the American Pastors Network.  Sam is a former member of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives where he was Chair of the House Finance Committee.  He is the speaker on Stand in the Gap Radio and Stand in the Gap Television.

Sam noted that God raises up nations and he takes them down.  So as God worked with Israel, that’s the pattern for nations around the world.  

He indicated that America got off course when we began to experience what Israel did as God communicates in Deuteronomy 28.  God told Israel that he brought them out of bondage to a new land and if they’d fear him and keep his commandments, then he’d pour out so many blessings, Israel would not be able to handle it.  Then after listing those blessings, God told Israel that if they turn their back on him and think that those blessings came from their own hands, he’d turn those blessings into judgment.

So once we believe that what we have came from our own strength, prowess and intellect, we’ve then taken God off the throne and have replaced him with man.  When such idolatry becomes the religion of a nation, God’s judgment steps in.

Don’t miss your opportunity to review this special National Day of Prayer broadcast that also answers the following:

  • Are we just now walking into judgment or are we close to final judgment?
  • Is there a path for returning to God?  Can there be national renewal/revival?
  • What are the 10 principles that describe democracies and their history as they move from bondage to freedom and back to bondage?  What step does Sam believe the U.S. is at?

Revival: When it Happens, You’ll Know It.

This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today radio program, originally aired on 3/22/22. To listen to the program, please click HERE.

Dave Kistler:                      Well, ladies and gentlemen, in the pages, the sacred pages of New Testament scripture, we have recorded what some have called the single greatest revival in the history of the Christian Church. In fact, Acts chapter number two records the scene, and I’m going to read from that passage. The Bible says, “And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing, mighty wind, and it filled the house where they were sitting.” Well, friends, the scripture goes on to say this, “And they were all amazed and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this? Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine. But Peter, standing up with the 11 lifted up his voice and said unto them, Ye men of Judah and all ye that dwell in Jerusalem, be this known unto you and hearken to my words for these are not drunken as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day. But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel.”

                                             And I’ll end my reading right there. Well, friends, this unparalleled account of God’s supernatural working has been seen, though definitely not to the same degree of course, throughout the history of the Christian Church. And as said the greatest preacher of the first Great Awakening, Jonathan Edwards, he said, quote, “Revival is a glorious and wonderful working of God, when the spirit of God is poured out in a far greater and more glorious measure.” Well, folks, there’s been times too many numerous to mention where people have attempted to define revival. The word “revive” means to come to life again from a state of apparent deadness. And perhaps the best definition I’ve personally heard is this. Revival is the fresh infusion of life into a body that is threatening to become a corpse.

                                             Here’s what the scripture has to say about revival in Psalm 85 verses four through six, it says, “Turn us, oh God, of our salvation, and cause thine anger toward us to cease. Wilt thou be angry with us forever? Wilt thou draw out thine anger to all generations? Wilt thou not revive us again, that thy people may rejoice in thee?” While attempting to define revival is fine, I think the best thing with respect to revival is to actually see or experience one. And with that in mind, I want to welcome you to Stand in the Gap today. I’m Dave Kistler, joined today by co-host Dr. Gary Dull. We’re going to be talking about the topic of revival.

                                             So I’ve chosen to title our program today this. Revival, when it happens, you will know it. And here to help us with our discussion is Pastor Steve Pope. He’s the pastor of Calvary Baptist Church in Union Grove, North Carolina. He’s a man that I’ve known since he was a teenager and I was in my early 20s. And we’re having him on the program today because the church he pastors, Calvary Baptist Church has been in the middle of a genuine revival for the last almost now 10 days. I’ll just say this, and then we’re going to talk to Steve about it. Services have been packed. People have been saved in large numbers. The spirit of God has been evidently present. And the only way to describe all of this is revival, a coming to life of God’s church. Well, Steve, I want to welcome you to Stand in the Gap today, my friend. Thank you for being aboard.

Steve Pope:                       Thank you, Brother Dave. It’s an honor and a privilege to be with you today.

Dave Kistler:                      Well, it’s a delight to have you on the program. And Steve, I want to go here. Revival has been associated in your situation with no special revival emphasis. In other words, what I mean is there’s been no planned meeting. You did not invite in a special speaker, though obviously there’s nothing wrong with that. You’ve had really no outside promotion, though of course there’s nothing wrong with promoting a revival or announcing a planned week of revival meetings either. But just simply Sunday a week ago, God showed up in power, in what some would say is in the normal of your typical weekly church life. Share a little bit, if you would, Brother Steve, about what happened Sunday a week ago, and just a little bit about what’s been going on since.

Steve Pope:                       Well, thank you, Brother Dave. Yes, it was just another plain day. Now we always hope for a big day. Every Sunday’s a big day at Calvary because we get to lift up our savior. But just as far as we thought, just another day of ministry and we were excited. I mean, we were excited about Sunday and hoping for a great crowd. And it seems like we’re starting to really gain a lot of our momentum back from COVID. And a lot of folks are coming back. A lot of visitors are starting to come. But just, now I had a message that was a very serious message. I preached a message called A Reality of Eternity, where I was talking about those who have heard the truth and heard the truth and heard the truth, and yet they’ve rejected the truth are going to suffer some of the worst torment in eternity.

                                             But honestly, Brother Dave, this is the truth. I was more excited about the message I was going to bring on Sunday night than the message I was going to bring on Sunday morning. And we just preached and we gave the invitation. And honestly, from that point on, it was like God took over. And we had a number of people saved in the Sunday morning service, but that spirit never stopped. My wife and I, we didn’t leave. We didn’t leave the property until almost three o’clock in the afternoon, just constantly there dealing with people, leading folks to Christ. And we left and went home, got a bite to eat. We came back about five o’clock. When we got back at five o’clock, there were people waiting on us. And we had several more people saved before the service began.

                                             And then Sunday night, we started the service, and you could feel that God was doing something unique in the service. And then Sunday night, I don’t know how to explain to you, Brother Dave, but other than it was like the spirit of God just sat down in the service. People began to respond. We didn’t coerce it. We weren’t urging people to come. It was nothing like that. It was people began to come. People began to get on the altars and weep. And I just called and asked our personal workers to come to the front. And we started dealing with people. People were getting saved. Well, that went over past the service that night. Folks were getting saved end of the night. We didn’t get home till probably midnight. Early that morning, Monday morning, my phone was ringing and folks were saying, “Preacher, could you call me?”

                                             And by the way, these were not folks that were necessarily associated with Calvary. Folks were watching the livestream. And so we started leading folk, folks came to our home, we started leading folks to Christ here. And then folks reached out and said, “Pastors, is there any way you can meet me at the church?” And so we, my wife and I went to the church that morning. Folks were getting saved at the church. And so this, it wasn’t until two o’clock in the afternoon, Brother Dave, I sent out a call to the church and I said, “Church, I know this wasn’t scheduled,” but I said, “We’re going to have church tonight. We’re going to meet tonight at seven o’clock on Monday. And anyway from there on-

Dave Kistler:                      Steve, hold your thought right there, my friend, if you would. I hate to do this. Ladies and gentlemen, we’re going to come back after this brief time out. We’re going to share a lot more with you about the topic of revival, but specifically what has been going on at Calvary Baptist Church in Union Grove, North Carolina. Our topic is this. Revival, when it happens, you’ll know it. And you’re going to find out about how you can know that, coming up after this brief timeout.


Dave Kistler:                      Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Stand in the Gap today. I’m Dave Kistler, joined today by co-host Gary Dull and by our special guest, Pastor Steve Pope. He is the pastor of Calvary Baptist Church in Union Grove, North Carolina, where a genuine revival has been occurring over the last, just under 10 days now. And we’re going to be talking with him more about that in this segment. Friends, I confess to you, I’ve been intrigued by and have been the student of and actually have been privileged to actually see a number of genuine revivals during my 38 years of evangelistic ministry.

                                             I’ve also read numerous books. In fact, I think I’ve read almost every book on the topic that’s ever been written. And I’ve visited the locations of some of the great revivals that have occurred in the United States as well as across the globe. I think I’ve been though most intrigued by the revival that occurred between the years of 1904 and 1906 in the country of Wales. Obviously books have been written about that phenomenal move of God that lasted for almost 18 months. Well, in 1990, I made the first of almost 20 trips to the country of England. And on that first visit, I met a gentleman by the name of Daniel, who was a little boy when the Welsh Revival of 1904 began. And while I was preaching there in England, this 93-year-old man loaned me a book, which I realized very quickly, there was no copyright on the book. I’ve never seen the book since.

                                             But it was an absolute day-by-day accounting of the revival in Wales as it was progressing. And because the book was not copyrighted and was certainly out of print, I photocopied as much of that book as I possibly could while I was there in England for my own personal study and prayer. And that incredible work described the move of God in Wales this way, and I want you to listen to this quote. The author of the book said, quote, “If you could have hovered over the principality of Wales during those amazing days of revival, you would’ve seen spontaneous prairie fires of revival springing up seemingly unrelated to each other all across the country.” Well, so intrigued was I when I read that book that I actually visited the town of Loughor, Wales, which is where the Welsh Revival actually began.

                                             And though there’s much more I could say about that revival and about my visit to the place where it began, for now, I want to say just simply this. What began as a small meeting morphed into a move of God that touched not only Wales but literally the world at that time. Well, here again to assist us with this discussion of revival is Pastor Steve Pope, pastor of Calvary Baptist Church in Union Grove, whose church, again, has been experiencing a very unusual move of God over the last almost 10 days. Steve, I want to ask you this. I know we don’t want to get down into the weeds and try to examine, dissect the move of God here, even as it’s ongoing. But I’m just wondering what preceded, if anything, what you’re witnessing right now at Calvary? It’s been said that every revival can be traced to at least one praying figure. Is there anything that you can look back on, point to that maybe in some way precipitated what you’re witnessing currently?

Steve Pope:                       Well, I definitely think, Brother Dave, we’ve been trying as a church to do a little better job concerning our prayer life. And before our services, before all of our services, our men and women are meeting in different rooms, and we’re praying for the services. And I’ve started inviting all of our men into my actual study, and what a blessing it is to, before the service, just to see that study just packed with men, just calling out on God and asking God to work. And I think that’s one of the things that’s helped.

                                             One of the things, and I’ll say this quickly, one of the things that really, I think, that precipitated this was Sunday morning when all this started, we had a young man in our church who was a preacher’s kid for many, many years. And he walked the aisle. I didn’t even know what was going on. I had no idea what was going on. And this young man just fell into the altar getting broken and was born again. And it was like at that very moment, it was like God began to do something very, very special in our church. And here’s the thing. Nobody really knew what was going on over there, including myself. But it was like God knew. And from that, it was like the revival fires began to burn.

Gary Dull:                           It’s amazing, Steve, to see how the Lord begins revivals. Of course you were talking about prayer, and I’ve often said that the prayer of God’s people always precedes a good, solid, biblically based revival. And thank the Lord for that. And then sometimes it just takes one particular situation to get that thing to grow and develop. And maybe that’s what happened that morning when that fellow came to Christ. But revivals have often been accompanied by great emotional upheaval. I guess that’s for lack of a better term to describe it because we’ve seen that many times in revivals. And that is the case because revival involves the confession of sin and a dramatic return to God. So how else could you have anything but a good, genuine, emotional upheaval? And I’m just wondering if you’ve been able to see any of that take place in your church there and in the revival that you’re experiencing there at North Carolina?

Steve Pope:                       Absolutely. The goal we have, and we’ve shared this numerous times with our church over the last nine days, of course the greatest thing that’s happened in this move has been the souls that have been saved. As of last night, 84 people have come to Christ just in the last few days. But one of the other great things, I mean, one of the great things that’s happened is we have saw so many people come back to Christ. And I’m talking about Christians, I’m talking about folks that were already saved. God had already confirmed that in their spirit that they were born again.

                                             But we have seen so many people get right with God. It is amazing. We’ve saw people in the church get right with one another. We’ve saw families, literally, we’re seeing families changed. Honestly Sunday before last, we looked across the altar in our church, and there were little pieces of Kleenex just littered across the front of the altar. I’ve never seen that in 30 years, where people were just weeping and just getting things right with the Lord. And it, as a pastor that’s been in the church for 30 years, man, it is something exciting to see.

Dave Kistler:                      Brother Steve, years ago I heard a great evangelist, if I called his name, you would know who I’m talking about, but he was in a meeting in another town outside North Carolina. And one of my pastor friends attended the meeting. And it was one of those times that literally the Lord just breathed on the place, and a genuine revival took place. And preceding all of the move of God, there was some tremendous excitement and enthusiasm. And the pastor that shared this with me said that he said to this evangelist, he said, “This is revival, this joy, this enthusiasm.” And the evangelist looked at him, and he said, “No.” He said, “I would disagree with you. It’s not revival yet.” He said, “You know revival has come when the altar and when the meeting place sounds like a labor room, like women getting ready to give birth to babies.” He said, “It’s called sorrow over sin.”

                                             And that’s what you’re describing with these pieces of Kleenex that line the altar. It’s people weeping over their own sin, weeping ultimately tears of joy because they’re now right with God, right with others in their family, right with others in the body of Christ. And it’s an amazing thing to witness. Steve, I want to go here, and we got just a couple of minutes to do it. But in Acts chapter two, there were those who attempted to attribute God’s work at Pentecost to public drunkenness. In other words, the enemy, the devil wanted to discredit what God was doing. The Welsh Revival was certainly no different. There were many detractors and distractors from that event or those that wanted to discredit what God was doing. Now, I know you don’t want to major on this and neither do I, but I know anytime God moves, there are always people that have something negative to say. Have you experienced any of that? And if so, how have you chosen to handle it?

Steve Pope:                       We have had that, Brother Dave. We’ve already had folks that are beginning to criticize. And that’s all right. And we knew that that was going to happen. I think the way that I would address that, and the way I have addressed it to the church is that, and to our critics is that this wasn’t something that was planned. We never had this on the church calendar. This was something that just, this was something that God did. God orchestrated this, God put this together. And so to our detractors, I’ve just said, “Come and see. I mean, come and see.” It’s one thing to hear about what’s happening. It’s another thing just to come and see the lives that are literally being changed and people’s countenance completely transformed. It’s not about a man or a congregation or even a certain church. It’s just something that God saw fit to do.


Dave Kistler:                      Well, ladies and gentlemen, we’re talking with Pastor Steve Pope. He’s the pastor of Calvary Baptist Church in Union Grove, North Carolina. Over the last just under 10 days, God has breathed on that part, not only of Union Grove, but he’s breathed on that part of Western North Carolina. And people are coming from all over that area of the western part of the state in which I live, and they’re coming to see, just to see what God is doing there at Calvary Baptist. It’s something unique and it’s something special. And folks, I want to say this. I think Brother Steve said it as well as it could be said, and he said it with the kind of spirit with which it needs to be said. He said, “I just say to the detractors, Come and see, just come and see for yourself, and then decide whether or not this is a genuine work of God.”

                                             In 1904, when the Welsh revival broke out, there were plenty of detractors there. And one well known British pastor said, “I’m going to go and see it for myself.” And he did exactly that. And he said from the time he arrived in the auditorium where the meeting was being held, he said, “I could sense the presence and power of God.” And he said to those that were the detractors, he said, “Come and see for yourself what I saw was God’s genuine work of revival being accomplished there in the principality of Wales.” Well, friends, when we come back, we’re going to continue our discussion with Pastor Steve. Our topic is this. Revival, when it happens, you’ll know it. Well, we’ve got a lot more to talk about. Don’t you miss a bit of it, coming up right after this very brief time out.

                                             In the summer of 1806 in a grove of trees in Williamstown, Massachusetts five college students met to discuss the theology of missionary service. Well, their meeting was suddenly interrupted by a thunderstorm, and the students, Samuel Mills, James Richards, Francis Robbins, Harvey Loomis, and Byram Green took shelter under a haystack until the sky cleared. Well, the brevity of the shower and the strangeness of the place of refuge and the peculiarity of their topic of prayer and conference all took hold of their imaginations and their memories. And that small prayer meeting ultimately became the catalyst for the modern day missionary movement.

                                             In 1808, the Haystack Prayer group and other Williams students began a group called, quote, “The Brethren.” Now that’s not The Brethren denomination. It was just called The Brethren. And this group was organized to effect in the persons of its members a mission to those who were not Christians. And in 1812, the ABCFM sent its first missionaries to the Indian subcontinent. Samuel Mills became the person with the greatest influence on the modern missions movement, and he played a role in founding the American Bible Society. Well, in 1867, a monument was erected in Williamstown, Massachusetts to honor the five men who gathered under that haystack and had that prayer meeting.

                                             And then in 1906, a gathering took place in Williams College in Massachusetts to remember the prayer meeting of over 100 years before. And then in the summer of 2006, 200 years after the prayer meeting, those committed missions did celebrate the 200th anniversary of the Haystack Prayer Revival. And I share that with you, ladies and gentlemen, because I want you to understand something. So many times, revival can begin in a small, seemingly insignificant way. And the scripture actually addresses that in Zechariah four verse 10, where the Bible says that we should not, quote, “Despise the day of small things.” That which can begin small, can erupt into something beyond significant that can literally impact the nation and literally impact the globe.

                                             And so we’re talking today again with Pastor Steve Pope, Calvary Baptist Church, Union Grove, North Carolina about what’s been going on for the last nine days plus there at his church. Over 80 people in just the last nine days have come to know Jesus Christ as savior. Families have been restored, relationships restored. People that have been following God at a distance, to call it that would be probably a generous way to say it, but knew the Lord as savior have been drawn back to the Lord. Their commitment to him has reached a fevered pitch. And the only way to describe all of this is to call it what the Bible calls it, and that’s a revival.

                                             Steve, I want to go here. I heard it said by a seasoned and really well respected preacher years ago, and here’s what he said. He said, “God does not revive in the midst of apostasy.” Well, I think we’d all agree that we’re in a time of great apostasy right now. But the very word “revive,” vive, life, re, again, to come to life again, I think the word itself presupposes very serious decline. So I’m curious, Brother Steve, after what you’ve experienced over the last nine days, what would you say to those who would want to suggest that America is too far gone to experience any form of revival?

Steve Pope:                       Well, we’ve never believed that, Brother Dave. Yes, America is declining. That’s true. But we all know you cannot put God in a box, and we’ve always believed that at Calvary. I think I would just, again, I would say to them, it is just amazing to see what God is doing, and that what we’ve saw God do in just the last few days. There’s no explanation for it. It has spilled out, way outside of our church. It’s not just happening at Calvary. Our Calvary family is bringing people.

                                             Our livestream, Brother Dave, is it’s unbelievable what’s happening on our livestream. There’s no explanation for it. We had people watch before, but now it’s, we have people watch. We had a man last night, Brother Dave, 73 years old that found the livestream, has watched the livestream the last few days. Called his niece and said, “I need you to come pick me up.” He lives over 30 minutes away from the church, says, “I need you to take me to church tonight.” And she said, “Okay” and took her feeble 73-year-old uncle to our church last night. He walked the aisle and was born again last night, and said he would never step foot in a church. That’s the kind of things we’re seeing happen. And there is no explanation for that outside of what God can do.

Gary Dull:                           And I think that’s a point to take into consideration, Brother Steve. And that is that when God works, yes, we are able to see him do that which is exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, but there’s no human explanation. To see God work is amazing. He works in his own way, his own time, through his own people, in the people that he wants to work in. And you look at it and you say, “Well, we couldn’t have planned that. We could never plan it again. But it’s just what God is doing.” So it’s amazing to hear this testimony of what’s taking place there in your church.

                                             They say that during the Hebrides Revival back in 1949 on the island of Lewis that’s off the coast of Scotland, they say that the meetings over there in those days lasted for hours. And of course as well, even as you have indicated there in your revival, people came seeking God all hours of the day and night because God continued to work. Now, when you go through something like that, it is spiritually invigorating, but it is also physically tiring. And I can almost sense a bit of tiredness in your voice, even as we’re talking today. But how have you approached that in the last two days, keeping up with everything that God is doing and being physically fit and strong enough to be able to carry out the ministry God’s given you?

Steve Pope:                       Amen. I appreciate that, Brother Gary. Yes. It is true. And yes, I am tired and our people are extremely tired. I told some of our folks last night, I said, “I know you’re tired.” And I said, “But God knows that. God knows that as well.” But I’m going to tell you something that’s so exciting. And Brother Dave, you referenced this a while ago, talking about a delivery room. We’ve been seeing people saved during the service, but we have very much been seeing people saved after the service. And what’s really amazing is to see people who are already tired, they will not leave the church property until they see what happens. And it’s almost like a spiritual delivery room. They are waiting, although they’re wore out, and they’ve got to get up and go to work tomorrow. We have people that are staying around the church until 11 o’clock at night because they just can’t wait to see what decision is being made next. And so I think, Brother Gary, the answer to that is yes, there is, it’s physically taxing. But boy, spiritually speaking, God just gives you a supernatural energy to keep going.

Dave Kistler:                      Gentlemen, I was just thinking, Steve, as you were talking and as Gary posed that really important question, it’s a question that’s been on my mind and heart. And I’ll be honest with you, Steve, I’ve been praying for you because I know you’ve been at the tip of the spear. And I know God’s given you everything you’ve needed, and he’s given your people everything you’ve needed. But I know you because I’ve known you since you were a teenager. I know you give everything you’ve got to the calling to which God has led you. So I know you’ve got to be exhausted. So I’ve been praying, “Oh, God, strengthen him. Give him that which he needs. Keep him, Lord, strong and at the forefront of all of this.”

                                             But there’s a passage in the book of Acts chapter number three. Of course, a lot happens in the early part of that chapter. But a lame man is healed, and it’s such a dramatic story that everybody in proximity hears about it. They all rush into the temple. And Peter stands up and he says this, “Repent.” He preaches this message, “And be converted that your sins may be blotted out.” Listen to this next phrase. “When the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord.” And Steve, I can also hear this in your voice. You have gone through, and your church has gone through and is still going through a time of spiritual refreshing, the likes of which you have really never experienced. Steve, you can’t put a price tag on that. How many people live the majority of their life and never see anything remotely close to what you are privileged to witness that is coming directly from God’s hand? I’d love for you, in just the couple of minutes we have left, to comment on that.

Steve Pope:                       Yes, sir, Brother Dave. It really has. It’s been spiritually invigorating. And our folks are tired, but I’m telling you, God is doing so many miraculous things. And I’ll just give you a for instance. I referenced the livestream a while ago. We’ve had this happen over the last nine days, we’ve had this happen numerous times where our service had already started. People were too tuning in to the livestream, and the spirit of God was working so strongly that they got in their car and drove physically to our property, walked the aisle at the property and got saved. We had a man the other day that drove from your area the other day and was watching from Morganton, North Carolina. The service had already started. Got in his car and probably drove a little too fast, but came to Union Grove, walked the aisle there at Calvary Baptist Church and was led to Christ. And it is just, it is so exciting. And when you see God doing those kind of things, man, it makes you want to go another day. That’s for sure.

Dave Kistler:                      Well, Steve, let me do this. Gary, I want to go to you. I’m going to ask you this question. I know in my 38 years of evangelistic ministry, there have been wonderful meetings. There’s been multitudes and multitudes, thousands of people that have come to know Christ as savior. But at the same time, there’s been high points. And I hear the music, and I’m not going to be able to ask the question, so I’ll just make the comment. Ladies and gentlemen, there’s been highlight moments where God just literally descended and met with you in a powerful way, in what can only be described as a genuine revival. Well, in the final segment, segment four coming up, we’re going to talk about what we can do. Now we know revival is God’s work. It’s God’s sovereign work. But are things that we can do to facilitate what God wants to do. And we’re going to be talking about that with Pastor Steve Pope coming up right after this movement.

Dave Kistler:                      Well, ladies and gentlemen, again, welcome back to Stand in the Gap today. I’m Dave Kistler, joined today by Dr. Gary Dull and our special guest, Pastor Steve Pope of the Calvary Baptist Church in Union Grove, North Carolina. And segment four is typically our what we call solution segment. And we don’t want today to be an exception to that. So we’re going to talk about a specific thing in this segment. And to do so, I want to introduce it this way. My wife and I are preparing for a really unique trip coming up here in a few months, and it’s a sailing expedition that has been a dream of both hers and mine for a long time. And folks, I’ll tell you right up front, I am not a veteran sailor at all, but I do know this. If you’re going to catch the wind of a sailing ship, you have to have your sail up.

                                             Now with respect to revival, we know this. No man can produce revival. No one can manufacture revival. But there are some things that we can and should be doing to, and I’m going to use this analogy, set our sails for the wind of God when it blows. In other words, God can move, God’s breath can blow in revival, but if your sail’s down, your ship is not going to move anywhere. But if your sail’s up, when the wind blows, then the sail’s going to catch that wind, and God’s going to be able to move you where he wants you to go. He’s going to be able to do with both individuals, a church, a pastor that which he wants to do, if we have our sail up. And so that’s where I want to go in this segment. Steve, we’re talking about today an incredibly precious thing, the work of God in revival. And Evan Roberts, the great revivalist that God used so powerfully in the Welsh Revival of 1904 said this with respect to the Welsh Revival.

                                             And that’s why I’m trying to be very guarded today. I know you are as well. But Evan Roberts said this. He said the revival in Wales, quote, “lost its luster when human hands played with it.” In other words, like damaging the beautiful petals of a rose when you touch them with your human hands, revival must remain out of our hands and in God’s hands. In other words, we can’t try to usurp and take credit for authority over that which God is doing because revival is his work. Yet having said that, there are some things that I believe we should be doing and not doing, so as to not interfere with what God is doing. And I wonder, Steve, I know you’ve thought about this because you want this to continue as long as God wants it to continue. So are there some things that you’re encouraging your people to do or to not do, so that in no way, the work of God in revival that’s been going on so gloriously for the last nine days is not in any way inhibited?

Steve Pope:                       Well, I think, Brother Dave, the answer to that is we’ve just tried to remind our people that revival is not based on a preacher. It’s not based necessarily on a sermon, a certain sermon or even a church. This thing, I really don’t think that this thing is about Calvary Baptist Church. In fact, we’ve watched as God, as I said a moment ago, God has caused this thing to spill out onto other families outside of our church, and even other churches. We’re already hearing reports of other churches are feeling the ripple effect of what’s going on at Calvary. I would tell you this, brother, that we’ve just tried to stand back and let God do his perfect work. I know two Sunday nights ago, March the 13th, when God began to move, and you know, Brother Dave, you’ve been to our church and we have a structured service, very structured service.

                                             We tell our people that we have an order of service, but it is subject to change if God decides to do something. But two Sunday nights ago in the Sunday night service, when God began to work, and the altar began to become flooded, and I began to deal with people, and I thought, “Lord, what am I going to do?” I mean, I need to lead the service, but there are people in the altar that I need to be talking to. And it was really, Brother Dave, it was like the spirit of God said to me, he didn’t say it audibly of course, but it was like the spirit of God said, “You just move back, and you let me have this service.” And I literally, I did. I just, I stepped back. And from that point on, I said, “I’m not going to worry about the order of service tonight. We’re just going to try to let go and see what God does.” And we began to deal with people in the altar, and God, sure enough, God began to do what God wanted to do.

                                             I think another thing I would say quickly is that the last nine days, as we’ve called the church back to have service, we haven’t even added things to the service that we normally would do to make the service flow, if I could use that word. We’ve just came together, fellowship, we’ve sang some, and then we’ve given the word, and then we’ve given an invitation. And it’s like every single night. We’ve not tried to wow people with a service, but God is continuing to move.

                                             And I don’t know how much time I’ve got, but I’ll just tell you this too, Brother Dave, that right in the midst of all of this, we had already planned to have some major construction there in the front of our church. I told the construction company, I said, “Just come on.” And we had a mess on our hands. We had stuff in the auditorium that we had brought in from the grand atrium. And I guess what I’m trying to say, it was not an opportune time for us to have revival, but it was a time when God saw fit to send revival. And so I would just say we move out of the way and let go, and let God have his way.

Gary Dull:                           Stand back and watch God work, I think is what you’re saying. And Brother Steve, this has been a blessed time to have you on the program today. And we are rapidly running out of time. And I’m going to ask you a question that you may not even be able to answer. And if you can’t, that’s fine because what you’re seeing there is God doing the work. But we have pastors listening to us all across the nation, even this very moment. And there are pastors in churches, praying for revival and asking God to work. And so far, maybe they’ve not seen too much. So what would you say to that pastor right now that’s listening to us, saying, “I really wish that what’s taking place there in Brother Steve’s church in Mount Hope would take place in my church”? Can you give him a word of wisdom? Maybe not. Maybe just let God work, but speak to that pastor, if you would, please.

Steve Pope:                       Well, I think, Brother Gary, I would just say to that pastor, longevity. Just stay. And stay in love with Jesus, and stay in love with your people, and just keep preaching. And God does what God wants to do when God wants to do it. And as you see things happen, as you see a soul get saved, boy, you rejoice over that. As you see a family get right with God, man, you rejoice over those decisions, while you’re waiting on God to do maybe even greater things. And so I would just say to my brothers out there, just stay faithful, just keep preaching the word of God, and trust God that he can do it in his own time. God is a sovereign God.

Dave Kistler:                      Steve, I’m going to go back to that book that I read about the Welsh Revival many, many years ago on my first trip to England. The author of that book said this, “A revival occurred in Wales in 1859. And it was so moving that people began to pray for God to do it again. So from 1859 to 1904,” the author of the book said, “imagine how many sermons were preached, how many prayers were prayed, how many acts of kindness, of service to the Lord were done with seemingly no immediate response or no immediate outcome.”

                                             He said, “You need to think of it this way. Every sermon preached in the power of the Holy Spirit for the glory of God, every act of service done in the power of the Holy Spirit for the glory of God, every prayer prayed for the glory of God goes into a reservoir.” And he said, “The reservoir from 1859 to 1904 filled up. And in 1904, God, in his sovereign plan chose to pull the plug out of the bottom of the reservoir and dump all of that out on the country of Wales in revival blessing.” The scripture says it this way in Isaiah 64:1, “Oh, Lord, wilt thou not rend the heavens? Oh, that thou wouldest come down, that the mountains might flow down at thy mighty presence.” Folk, let’s pray for revival. Let’s anticipate it. And let’s wait to see God do it.

Sam Rohrer Interviews on America Outloud

Topic: Ukraine Conflict May Have Deeper Meaning

On Sunday, March 13, 2022, Hon. Sam Rohrer interviewed with ‘Viewpoint this Sunday’ on the America Outloud Network. Dr. Lee Vliet hosted the program and another guest, Attorney Todd Callender, also participated in the discussion.

The topic was, “Ukraine Conflict May Have Deeper Meaning for America”.

More information:

Pentagon-funded bioweapons labs in Ukraine go back to 2004 under the Obama administration with these labs being in several countries on Russia’s borders. Ask yourself the following questions:

How do we trust a government that denies these labs are there when the same government agencies have been lying to us throughout the entire pandemic? We know the DARPA and the US-funded gain of function research at UNC and Wuhan China ⏤ was Ukraine next on that list? Is Russian President Vladimir Putin out to destroy the bioweapon labs on his border? Is the constant focus on Russia-Ukraine providing cover for the administration to carry out the planned destruction of America and our own military?

To listen to the interview, click HERE.

Photo by Yura Khomitskyi on Unsplash

Wake Up, Pastor! Wake Up, America! -a letter from APN President, Hon. Sam Rohrer

Dear Pastor, Parent, Employer, Educator, Elected Official, Citizen……

There’s no other way to say it than, ‘human life is under assault’! Ignore the starkness of that statement if you want but the Facts and the Truth do not change. The impacts of the COVID 19 panic policies embedded within strategic deception is not saving human life but destroying humanity. Today we’re witnessing legalized mass murder and globalist-initiated genocide. I have no more accurate way to say it.

“What connects two thousand years of genocide? Too much power in too few hands.”Simon Wiesenthal

“The more it (vaccination) is supported by public authorities, the more its dangers and disadvantages will be concealed or denied.”M. Beddow Bayly, British physician

“The duty of the survivor is to bear testimony to what happened . . . You have to warn people that these things can happen, that evil can be unleashed. Race hatred, violence, idolatries—they still flourish.”Elie Wiesel

“We have seen more than once that the public welfare may call upon the best citizens for their lives. It would be strange if it could not call upon those who already sap the strength of the State for these lesser sacrifices. The principle that sustains compulsory vaccination is broad enough to cover cutting the Fallopian tubes. Three generations of imbeciles are enough.” US Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Buck v. Bell, 1927

My purpose now is not to present the compelling evidence of underlying governmental bribery, corruption, and conflict of interest. It’s not my immediate purpose to present indisputable proof that these panic policies have crushed the American economy or cavalierly discarded historical medical research standards and bioethics or trashed established diagnostic, therapeutic, and treatment protocols. It’s not my immediate purpose to prove how these calculated COVID Panic polices are being used as justification to gut our Constitutional Rights of worship, conscience, life, or liberty. My purpose is not even to prove here how the fundamental purpose of government has been subverted from its limited purpose of protecting the God-given rights of our people to making law out of thin air under the guise of ‘emergency’ and limiting worship, travel, employment, and rewriting history by attempting to steal the power from the people by turning it over into the hands of a tyrannical global elite.

My immediate purpose with God’s help is to present 2 considerations: and urge you to take action:

1) Reconsider the facts and the implications of remaining silent in the face of ‘mass murder’ and genocide:

* Consider the body of evidence objectively and in the light of Truth.

* Consider your duty to warn others of danger as an Ezekiel 33, “watchman on the wall” and the implications of having ‘blood on your hands’ if you remain silent.

* Consider the voices of thousands of medical experts around the world who compelled by conscience, Hippocratic oath and moral duty to God are screaming out warnings, but being silenced, shunned or worse.

* Consider the millions of people taking the Covid injection expecting promised health and restoration but instead incur a sentence of death and misery, disability, and suffering.

* Consider leading your people to repentance, humility before God and calling out for God’s mercy.

2) Objectively consider the following 6 evidences and personal testimonies supporting my concerns. While the following firsthand testimonies describe the extent of harm being inflicted by the injections are ‘unofficial’, they are truthful and unbiased because of their unsolicited nature, they are compelling both factually and statistically. When combined with official Government VAERS/CDC data, this type of on the ground ‘qualitative’ data now easily identifiable from across the nation, validates with great assurance the validity of the assertion that what is occurring is indeed ‘mass murder’ and ‘genocide’.

Evidence #1: Dr. Sherri Tenpenny testimonial – READ and WEEP.

Last week, my Christian friend, medical authority, researcher, speaker, author and teacher, Dr. Sherri Tenpenny sent me this following note:

I always buy meds on https://dietitianlavleen.com/get-rid-of-accutane/ because this is the only online pharmacy that offers such huge discounts. I’m not sure how it can set such a low price, but that’s what it does. I’ve checked the licensing, it’s OK, so there’s no way this website sells low-quality medicines. I’ve ordered drugs there many times, and they all worked as they should.

In a two week stretch my friend had this happen: * Her husband got his second Covid injection and was found dead 48 hours later in his front yard (he was around 65 years old)! * Her best friend’s brother got the injection and died same the day. (He was only 52 years old)! * Then her cousin, a nurse, (she wouldn’t get vaxxed or let her husband) saw her husband’s 4 good friends with whom he would run together, get the injection and three of the 4 died within three weeks!* Then her girlfriends, all around 28-30 years and pregnant, four got the injection and three miscarried!

(Sam, this is mass murder!)

Upon reading this note, I responded to Sherri with my following comments:


What makes me so angry as a former State Legislator and policy maker, is that instead of immediately suspending these unapproved and experimental injections, those in positions of authority with the lawful and moral duty to protect our God-given rights and lives are instead remaining silent and enabling the lawless Executive Branch bureaucrats to double down! Jab it in the arms of the young people. Jab it in the arms of our children. It fits the definition of genocide!

Evidence #2: Unsolicited testimonies personally I’ve received in the past 2 weeks from pastors in PA:

* From a Senior Pastor in SW PA: Today, a man in my church in generally good health died of AFIB within 24 hours of taking his 2nd Pfizer injection. (This pastor sent his email to 6 others in a chain of pastors.) Within in minutes, the following responses came back:

* A millennial pastor in southern NY replied: “Wow! Last week a middle-aged woman in our small church – in good health – took her 2nd injection and died with cardiac arrest within 24 hours.”

* Another Sr. Pastor from mid-state PA then responded. “A neighbor of my mine in our very small village, got COVID back in February. He was very sick but recovered back to health. About a 2 months ago, he was convinced to take the injections. Just a week ago after taking the 2nd shot, he got very sick and died.”

* Another person on this email chain from NC responded: “My Pastor took the injection. A short time after his first injection, he became extraordinarily sick with the symptoms of COVID and is in very serious condition in the hospital.” (I don’t know his status as of right now.)

Evidence #3: From a Radio Station Manager who carries our SIGT Radio program.

About 3 weeks ago, I shared my studied observations of projected harm and the escalating nature of the damage being created from the COVID injections. His first response was that of doubt. A day later, he called me and said: “Sam, I shared what you said with my small radio staff. I was shocked. In the extended family of just one of my broadcast staff, in the previous week, 2 middle age family members who took the COVID injections died. One with blood clotting issues and the other with, I believe, a heart-attack. According to my staff person, both were in good health. You were right! I’m now hearing of other such occurrences.”

Evidence #4: From my local Family Physician who has a large practice.

This physician has successfully treated over 150 patients with the hydroxychloroquine Covid treatment. The oldest patient was 91 years old. All fully recovered. No deaths or permanent harm from the virus with his patients. In the past 2 weeks, this physician has relayed to me the following:

* “Sam, one patient in his 50’s came into the office with great fatigue. He has been healthy. In the course of conducting blood work, we found his platelet count nearly depleted. He had taken the first injection a week before. I told him that this kind of symptom is showing up as one of the many adverse reactions. For treatment, I told him that he needed to go on the hydroxychloroquine treatment, and to NOT take the 2nd shot. If he took that 2nd shot, he would most likely quickly die. He is now slowly improving.”

* “Another patient came in for regular preventive care. His blood work showed extensively high inflammation indicators. With normally good levels, I determined that he had taken the first shot. I instructed him to NOT take the 2nd as the production of high inflammation levels leading to stroke, thrombosis/blood clots and heart attack are all increasing evidence of adverse reactions caused by the COVID injections.”

* “Other indications are showing up in a wide array of patient sicknesses – all linked to people taking the injections. Sam, we are entering a disaster time.”

Evidence #5: From a friend of mine who is involved in the FDA/Pharma vaccine approval process.

“If the occurrences of adverse effects from any of the COVID injections now being promoted had occurred any time before the Emergency Authorization provision to bypass testing standards, the entire project would have been shut down. As it is, I can tell you that there is NO WAY that any of these EUA ‘vaccine’ injections will ever be APPROVED without changing the law!” 

#6: The Chart below shows the official numbers voluntarily reported on the VAERS/CDC US Govt Website.

Please note the following about these numbers:

* These are voluntarily reported numbers and therefore represent approximately 1% of ACTUAL according to a Harvard study HERE paid for by the CDC. (Based on the VAERS numbers and the Harvard study, True deaths approach. 300,000! The total adverse events over 7M! Sound like mass murder and genocide?)

* These numbers are low. According to the CDC they are 3-4 weeks delayed in reporting and posting.

* These numbers show that average reported vaccine deaths for years are level. The spiked upward climb since the COVID injections is historic.

* Any other vaccine or drug would have been pulled from the market by now for safety reasons. Perhaps the reason it has not is because it is NOT a vaccine but an experimental gene therapy!

* “A typical new drug at about five deaths, and unexplained deaths, would get a black-box warning, and it would be seen on TV, saying it may cause death. At about 50 deaths it’s pulled off the market.”

* In 1976 during the Swine Flu pandemic the U.S. attempted to vaccinate 55 million Americans. At that point the shot caused about 500 cases of paralysis and 25 deaths. “The program was killed, at 25 deaths.”

Title: The COVID Vaccination: Unapproved, Experimental, and Potentially Fatal-Part II


Title: The COVID Vaccination: Unapproved, Experimental, and Potentially Fatal-Part II

Host: Hon. Sam Rohrer

Guest: Dr. Sherri Tenpenny

Date: Jan. 21, 2021



Sam Rohrer:                      Well, hello and welcome to Stand in The Gap Today, where we deal with headline news of importance to Christians and of all freedom loving people, and we do it from a biblical and constitutional perspective. I’m Sam Rohrer and I’ll be joined today by special expert guest, Dr. Sherri Tenpenny. She’s an osteopathic medical doctor, board certified, three medical specialties and widely regarded as perhaps the most knowledgeable physician on the adverse effects that vaccines can have on a person’s health. So this is part two of a focus that we have started actually a couple of weeks ago, but it deals with the decision ladies and gentlemen, that really is being thrust upon us by government, upon which every one of us who are alive in this country. All of you listening to me right now are going to be forced to make a decision.

                                             There’s not too many times I have noted throughout my life, where you’re not going to be able to escape from certain decisions. Most of them you can avoid and go on, nobody cares. But on this one that we’re talking about today, this decision, no fence sitting, no neutral decision. It is the decision of this in the question, do I take the COVID vaccination? Do I choose not to take the COVID vaccination ever? Do I resist it for some time and then come back and take it later? If I’m pulled I can’t travel unless I take it. The choice may become limited, but we’re going to have to make the choice. And can I say here right off that I know when we talk about the matter of vaccinations that it is very controversial, a lot of people have done investigation in the past, maybe for their own children said, “Nah, I don’t like the fact of the way some of these were given.”

                                             Others are really on board and saying, “I liked the idea of vaccinations, but when it comes to this one of COVID vaccination, it is even more perhaps controversial because it’s perhaps more distinctive than any other vaccination you have considered.” And so we’re going to talk about the day, I’m wanting you to keep your mind open. We think it’s part of our responsibility on key points of decision to put out information that people can consider for ourselves. Not my job to tell you what to do. It is my job though, and my responsibility and ours and the program is to offer up information that will help you to consider the ramifications of choices that come our way. Now, that being said today, obviously marks the first day of the Biden Harris administration. A lot of things are happening as you know, executive orders are flying from shutting down the pipeline to open borders, to a host of things.

                                             I’m not going to get into that today. But one of the things that the president has communicated is that he’s going to be prosing about another $2 trillion or so stimulus plan built around COVID. And in it was said this morning that there are going to be some vast sums of money to fund military distribution and involvement with the vaccine. Now we don’t know exactly what that means, but it does make me question when I hear the military involved in vaccinations, because that’s certainly historic. So we’re going to be built off of that thought. Our theme today is this, considering the COVID vaccinations, unapproved, experimental, and potentially fatal. This is part two, that was a theme two weeks ago. And I want to welcome in right now to the program, Dr. Sherri Tenpenny. Sherri, thank you for being with us.

Dr. Sherri Tenp…:            Thank you so much for inviting me back, Sam. It’s my pleasure.

Sam Rohrer:                      We weren’t able in the last program to get things in and we have a lot to cover today, but you’re a vast resource. And so we want to get right into this. Dr. Sherri, on the consent form, a lot of people don’t know that if they choose to take the vaccine, they will have to sign a consent form that has a lot of key information in it. They need to be very careful. I just say that from a legal perspective, but one of the things is that they have to say they’ve considered and understand the benefits versus the risks of taking the vaccine. Now, reading from the Pfizer fact sheet, this is right off of the fact sheet. It says this,

“…this fact sheet contains information to help you understand the risks and the benefits of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccination, which you may receive. The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine is a vaccine.”

And here’s key words, “and may prevent you from getting COVID 19.”

And then it says just below it again, “it is your choice to receive it, or ostensibly not to receive it.”

So I want to ask you a series of short questions here. As we get the program going, first of all, a controversial issue, take the vaccine, not take the vaccine. Does it work, does it not work? But let’s go this way. What is the established need for a vaccine when most of the numbers are saying over 99% of the people who contract the virus survive and go on to live quite normally, what’s the need?

Dr. Sherri Tenp…:            Well, there really isn’t any need Sam, even if you want to think that that 99% is high, even though that is world data that has been accumulated by scientific researchers all over the world and published, if you… what if it was only 90% or 85%, it’s much higher. It’s a much higher rate than what the actual need is. Many researchers have said that the death rate from COVID-19 fell off months ago, like March or April of 2020, that we really don’t have a pandemic anymore. We have a case of stomach flu, and yes, we have a very small subset of people that get sick going to hospital, a smaller subset in the intensive care units and an even smaller subset pass away. So looking at why did those people die is important. The need for this vaccine is minimal. We don’t need another vaccine for the flu and when we’re basing all of these numbers on cases, which is a fraudulent test, which I think we got into in the last program, there really isn’t any need and this vaccine is all risk and no benefit.

Sam Rohrer:                      Okay, great. Let’s go right on. The benefits of taking the vaccine, then if there’s no need, then the question is the benefit and again, I remind our listeners on the manufacturer itself. The only benefit I’m showing bias, but I’m just saying objectively, the only benefit that they say is that it may prevent you from getting COVID 19 and Dr. Sherry, when we understand that the wearing of face masks, maintaining social distancing and all that’s going to continue anyway, even if that vaccine were to work. What is the benefit?

Dr. Sherri Tenp…:            There isn’t any, and it’s all risk. And the fact that you have to… when this vaccine is not going to keep you from getting sick, we have no long-term studies on the potential long-term side effects and complications. I’ve learned from European epidemiologists that I’ve spoken to in meetings that it takes at least 48 days for the first side effects to show up. And then it takes anywhere from four months to four years for the long-term complications to show up from any vaccine. So that’s why vaccine studies under normal conditions, they follow potential side effects and complications for years, we have fast tracked this. We strong armed it into the population, and now we’re forcing people to do it against their will to ostensibly get back into a normal life, which you’ve already said is not going to happen.

Sam Rohrer:                      Stay with us. This is Sam Rohrer, I’m speaking today with Dr. Sherri Tenpenny and our theme is this- part two of our focus on the COVID 19 vaccination.


Sam Rohrer:                      If you’re just joining us right now, we’re looking at COVID-19 vaccinations. I’m doing this again to help present information- expert, reliable information. Our guest today is Dr. Sherry Tenpenny and if you were listening two weeks ago, she was with me for part one of this discussion. I encourage you to go back to our website, standinthegapradio.com. You can look up the January 8th interview and then link it together with this one. And you’ll have a very, very, very good sense of this entire issue. And I understand the dilemma that’s facing so many, actually all of us relative to the vaccine. I’ve spent a lot of time in my life looking at issues.

                                             When I was legislatively in the position as a legislator, looking at this issue, we’ve considered these things well for our six children when they were growing up. So my wife and I walked through a lot of this together, but it’s a new consideration for many young parents and for others in this time. So we’re trying to do this to help you have the information so you can be equipped to make a wise informed decision for yourself. Now in the signing of the consent form I mentioned, if you decide to get the vaccination, you’ll have to sign a consent form.

                                             There are questions there. Have you read the materials about this vaccine? Have you considered the risk? That kind of thing is generally standard for anytime you’re going to get a shot in your arm, perhaps or something you can see that, but what’s assumed by people in times like this, where there’s a vaccine heavily promoted, is that the necessary governmental and agency rules and standards put in place in the past to ensure safety and efficacy, that doesn’t work, has in fact been done with no corners being cut. What’s required by law is that research and testing and standards are in place and they’re followed so that the public can be assured of long-term safety.

                                             And that’s done before any official approval is granted in this case, medically it’s by the FDA food and drug administration. But what if those standards have been set aside? What if the safety and efficacy is not yet known as in the case of this Corona virus? You say, why can you say that the safety and efficacy is not established well on the website of Pfizer at cvdvaccine.com. They state this, ‘in countries where the vaccine has not been approved’ and that’s actually most, key word approved, by the relevant regulatory authority.

                                             ‘It is an investigational drug and its safety and efficacy have not been established.’ Now that I read to you was not a year ago. That’s just what I pull off the website right now. This is on the official website, the efficacy, the safety and efficacy have not been established and it’s termed an investigational drug. So that’d be the case I want to get right into give you maximum time here, Dr. Sherry, in response to this. When I read research and safety testing, not established means it’s still ongoing. To me it says there’s a risk to the company because they don’t know which is what you’re saying, and everyone in the process who gets involved including the patient also doesn’t know, to me it elevates this concept of risk. What is the risk for the companies involved right now? And just build this whole aspect out.

Dr. Sherri Tenp…:            Yes. Thank you, Sam. And just for the sake of your listeners who may not have heard me talk a lot before. I’m a board certified physician, I live in Cleveland Ohio. I’ve been studying problems associated with vaccines for more than 20 years and invested more than 40,000 hours of my time onto this topic. So this isn’t something that I just decided last week I was going to talk about, this is something I’ve invested years of my life and years of investigational study into. So I think that credibility is important for you to know that the things that Sam and I are talking about aren’t just off the cuff and to address and answer your question about what is the liability for the companies, they have none. In 2005, there was a piece of legislation that was passed into law. It was actually tacked on at 11:30 on a Saturday night on the backside of a defense appropriation bill.

                                             It was later rolled out and referred to as the prep act, which is the public readiness and emergency preparedness act of 2005 that they refer to it as the prep act for sure. In March, 2020, Alex Azar, the head of HHS activated that law by writing it into the federal register and said that from here forward up through October 1st of 2024 or until which time the pandemic is over that any product that has made that can be called a covered countermeasure, which is a drug, a vaccine, a software, a technology, any type of product, a test, all of the PCR testing that’s done. All of it is has 100% liability protection. You cannot be sued for an adverse event. You cannot be sued if it kills you, you cannot be sued if it gives you false information upon which to base your life. So the 2005 prep act completely covers all of this.

                                             The only way that you have any recourse is it after the effect a large number of people have had an adverse effect to this vaccine. If you can get together and convince the U.S Attorney general that this product was created under an act of willful misconduct, meaning they created it intentionally to harm you, that then and only then will action be taken against the companies who’ve made them. That includes every ingredient, the manufacturer of every ingredient, they’ve got every single piece covered. They have zero liability, and therefore they have no incentive at all to make a safe or safer product.

Sam Rohrer:                      Dr. Sherri, that is very, very key information because just from a human nature perspective, the only thing that prevents, since I was in office at one point, politicians or businesses from doing things that can actually harm people as long as they get gain, is the fact that they are afraid that they’re going to be prosecuted legally or in even fewer cases. The people who lead those organizations have a fear of God and they are self-restrained because of moral obligation to people or ethically driven decisions. But if you throw God out, you throw the moral out and the ethical out, then the only thing that most people fear is the fact of what can happen to their job or their company as in being sued. What you said is very critical. This you’re saying what happened in March, where the 2005 act was actually codified, put into regulation forum. And it’s in effect until the end of 2024, where you said or until the end of this pandemic, that’s what you’re saying. This broad immunity from liability is specifically crafted around this COVID virus policy and this vaccine is that correct?

Dr. Sherri Tenp…:            Around the vaccine and any product that they’ve labeled. They’ve given it a name, they call it a covered countermeasure, which again, it can be anything that’s made under the umbrella of I’m doing this in relationship to COVID-19. You can belly up to the money trough that the government is throwing to the pharmaceutical industry. Like you said, at the top of the hour, trillions of more dollars to go into the richest, most wealthy, most powerful and in my opinion, most evil organization on the planet, the pharmaceutical industry.

                                             Any covered countermeasure. So that’s a vaccine, a drug, a test, the PCR testing they’ve approved through emergency use more than 200 different types of test kits that are not standardized. And you cannot compare them from one test to kit, to the other, to software, to technology for any sort of microchipping thing that might happen, anything at all that any manufacturer can apply for money and comply for utilization under an emergency utilization authorization, and get money for it because they say, “Oh, we’re doing this to protect people or to make people safe underneath the COVID-19 regulations.” It’s all of it, gets a blanket pass for any sort of liability.

Sam Rohrer:                      Dr. Sherry. I can say that any time that that happens, any kind of accountabilities, put this way accountability has been removed for whatever reason it will be exploited. And so ladies and gentlemen, again, I want to tie this in with this regard, not only are the companies and all those involved in the distributing of it held harmless. If you agree to take the vaccine and when you sign the consent form, which you’ll have to sign and consent forms are really under law. They’re required to be informed consent, meaning you are signing something that you know, and you have to know about, otherwise it could be a coerced consent or a consent under duress, and that becomes a matter of law.

                                             So this becomes an informed consent. And so you are agreeing, I’ve read all the materials, I’ve considered the risks and the benefits. And then after that, you agree, I accept full responsibility for all, and any adverse reactions that may occur from the vaccine. So in effect, legally you give up your right to sue, even though those involved in giving the vaccine have already been exempted by government. So you understand that this is a very, very big deal. We want you really, really to understand what’s taking place in this regard, with that go to our website, I have produced an analysis of the Pfizer fact sheet. I think you’ll find it very, very helpful.

                                             You can find it at the americanpastorsnetwork.net site at the bottom of the page. You will find it and in it, you will find the entire fact sheet, which is probably closer to the truth of anything. And you’ll find some comments and links for me. And you’ll also find in there one of the consent forms that you can look at and read it for yourself in light of what we’re talking about. And hopefully it will be of help to you. We’re going to cut away now in just a moment for some announcements and come back and just a little bit, continue our discussion. We’re going to talk about now therapeutics and treatment, because a lot of people aren’t even getting this virus.


Sam Rohrer:                      If you’re just joining us now in the middle of this program, this is Stand In The Gap Today. I’m Sam Rohrer and accompanied today by Dr. Sherri Tenpenny. She is an osteopathic medical doctor, board certified, three medical specialties, widely regarded as perhaps the most knowledgeable physician on the adverse effects that vaccines can have. And of course, we’re talking today about, should I take the COVID vaccine? The decision that’s before all of us, were going to have to decide yay or nay or delay, yay, nay, or delay one or the other. And ultimately with pressure from third-party groups, you can’t travel unless you have a COVID passport, they’re calling it. Or you may not have access to digital currency that’s coming unless you have it, the pressure will in fact be on. So you cannot get away from it. But let me go into same theme, slightly different aspect here.

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                                             When it comes to the Corona 19 virus, even from before the official governmental identification of the virus, about a year ago now, as we do this program, individuals and companies were trying without success to produce a vaccine for Corona viruses. This is coronavirus 19, but others have been proceeding. They’ve tried for a long time, either in the past, it didn’t work or all the test animals involved in the research got sick and died, but one way or the other, nothing was ever approved. So even at this time, according to normal safety and testing standards, there is no approved. I’ll put that quote ‘approved Corona virus vaccine’, and the developers Pfizer and the others they make that clear. It’s not approved in the normal sense of the word. It’s emergency authorized, it’s different thing. But the current messenger RNA investigational drug as Pfizer refers to it on their website has never been broadly tested.

                                             And they make that clear. It’s not fully tested. They don’t know. So the result is an experimental or investigational drug where the safety and efficacy, as I mentioned, not tested broadly is now being tested broadly on millions and perhaps billions of people and the companies, as we just talked about, have been granted full immunity from liability and where if there’s any other right you have under law to sue, when you sign the consent form, you give up anything that’s left. So the result of that is you have a drug, an investigational drug being requested by people to be taken into their arms for a virus from which over 99% of the people who get it survive. Now we’ve already talked about some of that. Let me go ahead here, Dr. Sherry, since an investigational drug is out to referred, how can it be a vaccine which asked that question and are these COVID-19 emergency authorized, not approved injections, are they actually vaccines or are they not? Let’s use the right term as we think about this, as people have to think this thing through it, what is it actually?

Dr. Sherri Tenp…:            Well, we’ve been using the word vaccine ever since this drug has been fast tracked to market. And so people believe it is a similar vaccine to say a flu shot or a single shot or a pneumonia shot, but it behaves by a completely different mechanism of action because of the type of drug that it is. So it’s not going to create the same sort of efficacy, which people generally believe efficacy means that I get the shot and it keeps me protected. It keeps me from getting sick. That’s not what this antibody does. And so therefore it’s a completely different type of device. In fact, some people have been saying that it’s really not a vaccine at all, but it is a type of technology because how the messenger RNA, when it goes into your cells and begins to replicate it acts and behaves in a completely different manner of any previously developed or in utilization of vaccines.

                                             So people think that, Oh, it’s just like getting a flu shot. I’ll just go get that shot and then I won’t get sick from COVID and I can travel and I can go back to work and all these different things, but that’s not the case. How this product that’s going to be injected into your body behaves is not the same way that say a flu shot or an MMR or a chickenpox or shingles vaccine behaves. It’s never been used before in human beings. It’s never been tested long-term and when they tested it on experimental animals, as far back as 2002, when they tried to develop a coronavirus vaccine over the last 20 years, all of the animals developed advanced autoimmune disease and either were very sick when they vaccinated them or they died.

                                             And that’s the reason why the FDA never progressed a coronavirus vaccine out of animal trials, into human in the last 20 years. Because we’ve declared this to be emergency that somehow we’ve come to believe that the outcome of that is going to be different. It’s really not true. It’s something called antibody dependent enhancement. And if you pull all the research papers or that talk about antibody dependent enhancement with Corona viruses, you will see that the researchers conclude on their studies, that we must proceed with great caution in using a Corona virus vaccine in humans.

Sam Rohrer:                      And I don’t have time to go into it, but I did pull in preparation for this because I’m very big ladies and gentlemen, you know what I’m saying? Define the terms, define the terms. When somebody speaks, define what they mean, because they may mean something totally different. And that is the case with vaccine. The definition of vaccine I have in front of me from medical book and it’s standard out there, it’s a suspension of attenuated or killed microorganisms administered for prevention, amelioration, or treatment of infectious diseases. But in this one, the COVID 19 vaccine there is nothing at all related to the actual virus. So that is why it doesn’t meet the definition of vaccine among other things, is that correct?

Dr. Sherri Tenp…:            That’s absolutely correct. In fact, it’s designed to stimulate human cells to propagate pathogens. And even bill Gates said, in one of his interviews, he said, “Yes, we can make a human being, be its own vaccine manufacturer.” Well, that means that you inject a product that starts to replicate, creating an antibody that can cause a lot of harm in your body through auto-immune responses and there’s no off button. Once you’ve pushed the on button, once you inject that and you get the second shot, which actually… it makes the speed go even faster of that replication, once it’s started, there’s no off button.

Sam Rohrer:                      So in reality, Dr. Sherry, what this is, is an altering of chromosomal actions or cells, but it’s an permanent altering of cells.

Dr. Sherri Tenp…:            It’s a permanent alteration to your immune system. And when you read the science, those particles, those particulate matter of that RNA can incorporate into your cellular genetics.

Sam Rohrer:                      Okay well I’ll let that drop right there, ladies and gentlemen, hear that this is not a vaccine by definition, it works totally differently and it does enhance your immune system. And out of that comes a host of different risks, but I’ve got to go here and I want to talk a little bit about this. There are many people who don’t get this, the virus, they don’t come down with symptoms. There are treatments that have been used to help people get better if they do get it. But there was a recent study, I believe somebody in Indonesia or whatever did a study and they found some very significant facts. Would you share that with us?

Dr. Sherri Tenp…:            We look at this, that what I mentioned earlier about the people who get the flu, which is what Corona virus is and they go home and they get better. Some of them get sick enough to go to the doctor. Some get sick enough to be admitted to the hospital, a smaller and smaller subset get admitted into intensive care. And some of them don’t do very well and some of those even die. So instead of our government, looking at that population of very sick people and saying, what sets them apart? Why is it that this particular population of people get the sickest and end up in intensive care units? Well, the Indonesians did a study and they crunched all that data. And one of the things that they discovered was that people have a vitamin D, D as in David, the vitamin D level of 30 or greater have less than a 4% chance of having an adverse outcome, if they can track this infection.

                                             That’s really substantial, and what I’ve been saying in the many, many interviews that I’ve done over the last several months, Sam, is that if you’re going to run out and get tested for something, the thing you should get tested for is your vitamin D level. Greater than 30 is the normal range on most blood tests in our practice here in Cleveland Ohio, we want that therapeutic target to be somewhere between 80 and 100, for it to be most efficacious in your body to get a vitamin D level.

                                             You can get that through your doctor, through your insurance. They’re like any lab test now type services that are available online, that you can order it yourself. The people really should know what their vitamin D level is and secondarily, they should know what their zinc level is, because the other thing that made a big difference between adverse outcomes from COVID infection and people that recovered rather uneventfully was people who were taking zinc and at least 25 milligrams a day in a men up to 25 milligrams a day ongoing with a product called Quercetin, spelled Q-U-E-R-C-E-T-I-N, Quercetin, which is a plant-based antioxidant that drives the zinc into the cells and makes it work to protect you from a host of viral infections not just COVID-19.

Sam Rohrer:                      So what you are explaining there, and we’re just about done is that there are certain naturally occurring things related to our health that helps our immune system, as God has made it to respond to things that come up and in the case of COVID-19 what the Indonesian government has done. And what you’re talking about is that vitamin D levels at above 30, and you are saying zinc levels, but between 20 to 25, 25 for men, those two in combination with Quercetin, you’re saying, according to studies is very, very efficacious and should be pursued it doesn’t cost anything ladies and gentlemen. Saying, bear these things in mind as you’re considering options relative to your choice of whether or not you will end up taking the COVID vaccine investigational drug or not. When we come back, we’re going to talk about thinking carefully, choosing wisely.


Sam Rohrer:                      As we conclude this program today, and this is determining as part two of our focus on the COVID vaccine, our January 8th, 2021, just a couple of weeks ago is a program as part one. I do encourage you to go there. You can also pick up a transcript from that program with Dr. Sherri Tenpenny. And then on December 10th of last year, we did a program with Dr. Dolores Cahill from Ireland, where we opened up this whole discussion again and you can also go there, listen to that program and pull up a transcript of that. Between these three programs, you’ll have a tremendous amount of information that hopefully will help you in coming to an informed decision for you and your families with what you do with the COVID virus.

                                             And can I just talk a little bit here to you right now, as we wrap this up, I’m going to be asking Dr. Sherry in just a moment just to share personally how she would advise people to consider this entire thing. But I know that this matter of the virus, this matter of the vaccine has really, unfortunately, almost pitting people one against another, churches are divided even, that’s a shame, should not be. The culture is divided. Now the policies the government is taking is helping to divide, because they’re not overly concerned about that, but we need to be. And we’re trying to provide information to help you make an informed decision. And I know that you and I all of us, would like to take and put behind us 2020. Some of you are listening right now, you’ve lost family members precipitated by the virus, I know that. I know personally have friends who have died from this. So the impact of the virus is real, and we all want at this time, the draconian government mandates that have changed our freedoms and forced to change in the way we school our children or grandchildren, or employment, or church and family gatherings, all of those things to now moving to the case of being the cause of actually jailing right now, as I do this program, there are pastors in California being jailed because they kept their churches open and they’re facing million-dollar fines from government, for what? For what? So now there is a hope for a cure, the vaccine they say, but really it’s not. People want an option to do something to allow life to return to normal. But the powers that be say life will never go back to the way it was. So if there was a time for wisdom and discernment it is now. That makes me think of the apostle James and the book of James that says, if any lack wisdom, let him ask of God.

                                             And he will give him liberally, but God gives wisdom to the person who pursues knowledge and truth as defined by the word of God. The book of Proverbs makes that very, very clear. So we must think carefully. We must choose wisely because choices do have consequences. So Dr. Sherry, I would like to talk to you just right now, people face dilemmas. You know it, you talk to patients, you are a Christian doctor, you have a knowledge of medicine, but you have a knowledge of that which is true. What advice would you offer right now for a person listening, who maybe hasn’t decided are on the fence, or they’re considering about the vaccine? What should they do? What would you tell them?

Dr. Sherri Tenp…:            I would say for those that are on the fence, two things, one is keep investigating, keep doing your research. Don’t just blindly accept what you’ve been told by me or by anyone else, the information is out there. You need to do your own digging and research. The second thing is, if you’re on the fence right now for this particular vaccine, wait. When all of this stuff started happening back in March and April of 2020, they did a lots of surveys. And one of the surveys was about 70% of people said, as soon as this vaccine is ready, I want to take it. And now fast forward eight, nine months later, the current surveys are saying it’s up to 65% are saying, absolutely not. I will not take it, or I’m going to wait and see what the side effects are and what happens to people.

                                             That’s a huge swing from 70% saying yes to 65 saying either absolutely not or I’m going to wait. I would advise people to just wait. We don’t know what the long-term consequences are. We don’t know what the side effects are going to be. We know it hasn’t been studied in a lot of different ways. We know that so far, we just started this in April of this year, I’m sorry, in December of 2020. And we know that according to the various database, which is the vaccine adverse events reporting system that I got these numbers handed to me this morning.

                                             That so far just since the 1st of December, that in the vaccine adverse event reporting system run by the FDA, there’ve been over 6,700 reports of a vaccine, adverse reactions reported 29,000 different adverse events and 55 deaths from a vaccine that got released under emergency authorization with very little pre scientific evidence of anything that is going to keep you even from getting sick. And those kinds of numbers, Sam are staggering, 6,700 reports, 29,000 different adverse events and 55 deaths since the 1st of December…What other product not only would still be on the market with those adverse events, but would be so heavily pushed by government officials?

Sam Rohrer:                      And I think that’s a logical question objectively to raise that, some would say, and I’m glad you shared those numbers because there have been reports in the UK. Some folks went into anaphylactic shock as an example, there were individuals across this country, but a lot of those reports I’ve seen, they’re up for a while and then they’re been taken down. Now what you’re citing, you’re just gave there is off the FDA website.

Dr. Sherri Tenp…:            It’s the vaccine adverse event reporting system. It’s V-A-E-R-S.gov. And the various adverse event reporting system is part of the 1986 childhood vaccine injury compensation act, it’s monitored and run by the FDA. And depending on who you read, some scientists have said that somewhere between one and 10% of adverse events are actually reported. So 6,700 adverse events is only 10%. There may be as many as 67,000 adverse events that many of them haven’t been reported because people don’t know how to report it. Doctors don’t even know how to report it. They don’t even know that this adverse event reporting system run by the FDA even exists. So if we have 60, the actual number is 6,741, 6,741 reports submitted and 29,081 different adverse events at up through January 8th of this year. So that’s within one month plus 55 deaths. I would say if you’re on the fence, just wait, get some more information, do some more investigation, see what happens because you can always vaccinate, but once you vaccinate you can’t unvaccinated and particularly not with this vaccine.

Sam Rohrer:                      That is good. Dr. Sherry, you do have a website. You’ve given some information here, we’ll take and put this on our website as well, probably americanpastorsnetwork.net. We have two sites, standinthegapmedia.org site then we have two, probably place them on both. But you have a website as well. drtenpenny.com. Am I correct?

Dr. Sherri Tenp…:            Yeah. D-R, t as in Tom, E-N, p as in Peter, E-N-N-Y drtenpenny.com and the other website where I blog and I have all of my posts there it’s called vaxxter.com, V as in vaccine, A-X-X-T-E-R.com. We have a slew of writers. We have a bunch of people that write for us, and that’s our educational platform, drtenpenny.com you can read about all the different things that I’m involved with. You can listen to dozens of past interviews that I’ve done, and you can see my CV and you can see a whole lot more about my credentials and why I feel so strongly and so powerfully standing in this gap for God’s people. For God’s people need to hear it.

Sam Rohrer:                      Indeed. And that’s our purpose here. Thank you, Dr. Sherry for being with us, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you. And again, I remind you this program today will be available on our website, standinthegapradio.com, go back and listen to January 8th of this year and December 10th of last year, the transcripts will be available. The program will be available. Take it, listen to it. More people listen to these programs, I think any that we have done it’s because it’s important. Go there and listen to it and share it with your friends. And with that, thank you for being with us today join me tomorrow, George Barna will be my guest right here.